I Drove a Regular Granturismo Followed by an MC Stradale back to back

AlpineAlex

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Last week I drove the very last Granturismo in that it was a 2018 MC. So it had the ZF 6 Speed Auto, Skyhook etc.

Then today, I finally got the opportunity to drive an MC Stradale from 2015.

From the moment I decided an MC Stradale was my next likely purchase, I've been searching the forums to find a comparison between the two.

Firstly, the fit and finish of the interior was very impressive. The driving position was perfect, the seats comfortable and everything generally felt well put together. In comparison, I felt the opposite about Astons I have been in from the same era, they seemed creaky and fragile.

Exterior they were the same, however I do feel that the MC Stradale sits nicer, the regular Skyhook suspension makes the car much higher at the rear for some reason and therefore doesn't look as "sure of itself" as the Stradale.

The regular GT was quite literally that, a GT, it was quite soft, there wasn't too much feel, it made an incredible noise but you could tell the car really just wanted to cruise. I was impressed with the handling when put in to Sport mode, but it didn't feel like a car where you were supposed to be throwing it in to corners even though it actually handled them quite well.

For me personally, I have a daily Lexus that I just bat around in, so I don't need a soft comfortable car, but if I wanted a nice daily cruiser that looked and sounded epic then I would recommend the Maserati over most other options. I'd say until you get to a budget up to about £60k, then I would recommend people looking at the Lexus LC500 because that's got the same Maserati values but trumps it with the newer technology and design.

The MC Stradale was exactly what I wanted it to be, it was a car which kept reminding you it was there, when you were driving it it didn't let you forget about it. If the GT was a big Great Dane which didn't disturb you much and just lay around chilling and keeping you company, yet still impressive and a joy to be around, the MC Stradale was a German Shepherd, filled with energy and constantly wanting to play and get attention, but you had a feeling that too much of it would wear you out.

Immediately driving away in the MC Stradale I noticed the suspension was much stiffer, I had watched and read reviews and they said that it was a very compliant suspension given the nature of it, but I still found it to be crashy at times. But when it came to handling roundabouts and corners, immediately I felt the positives. It turned in much quicker and gripped better, each corner and junction was more of an event in this car, especially in race mode when you had to do the shifting yourself, where as in the regular version shifting yourself kind of felt a bit silly as it could do it itself just fine and without you noticing, a bit like when you give a toddler a video game controller that isn't plugged in just so you can make them think they're playing.

The Stradale just constantly wanted to go, it wasn't comfortable not accelerating, it just wanted you to make your way through the revs constantly.

My biggest worry was whether I would like the gearbox as I have driven an F430 and hated how lurchy it was. At the beginning of the drive I immediately felt that lurchiness and hated it. I went in to manual mode and it was still lurching on the upshift, but after I let off the accelerator it would be a smooth shift. This was a relief and to be honest I kind of liked it. I remember a Top Gear episode where Clarkson said that there's something that connects you to a car where it's a car that only you know how to get the best out of it, and that was the rewarding feeling I was getting after performing every upshift smoothly.

My GF didn't like the gearbox, in fact her conclusion was that she preferred the regular GT, but thankfully she has her own cars and doesn't have much influence over my purchasing. She drives the Alpine A110 so she likes her small nimble cars. I also think that once I've gotten used to the gearbox I'll be able to drive it smoother.

One thing I didn't expect is the bad condition of most Stradale's. I've looked at a couple now and I haven't found one that I feel has been well looked after. But it's not a car that a non-car enthusiast should buy as it's a terrible car for just driving in auto mode and pootling around town or cruising on the motorway, so why are people buying them who aren't going to look after them, get them serviced and dealers/specialists and maintain them. The interiors on some of them have been horrendous with bits of trim missing, scratches everywhere and holes in the leather.

I'm going to hold out for the best one I can find and afford, thankfully I'm in no rush as it may take some time.
 

AlpineAlex

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tbh I never test drove the standard one knew that I wanted the stradale, hit lucky that Richard grace had one coming in.

Yeah yours looks really nice, I think grey will be my first choice of colour but I think they're quite rare. I'd go for either your wheels or Trofeo wheels as they do look quite nice in person but don't photograph well.

I'll probably end up with a black one.
 

Doohickey

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Great post and exactly how I felt when moving from a GT to a Strad. The more you drive it the better the gearbox is as you get used to it. I disagree about the motorway however - we did 9.5 hours from north Italy, through Switzerland and a large part of France without a problem. It sits there quite happily.

IIRC the Strad is slightly lower than the GT so it’s not just your perception and it sounds better!
 

AlpineAlex

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Great post and exactly how I felt when moving from a GT to a Strad. The more you drive it the better the gearbox is as you get used to it. I disagree about the motorway however - we did 9.5 hours from north Italy, through Switzerland and a large part of France without a problem. It sits there quite happily.

IIRC the Strad is slightly lower than the GT so it’s not just your perception and it sounds better!

That's good to know about the gearbox as those long European road trips is what I'd be buying the car for.
 

Scaf

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Great post, and I am sure you won’t be disappointed with the Strad.

I moved from a 2010 MC shift to the Strad and have not regretted it for a moment, and can see myself owning mine for a long time, after all, what else gives as much bang for the buck and has such character, oh and then thermos the noise :cool:

Good luck with your search
 

Gazcw

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Last week I drove the very last Granturismo in that it was a 2018 MC. So it had the ZF 6 Speed Auto, Skyhook etc.

Then today, I finally got the opportunity to drive an MC Stradale from 2015.

From the moment I decided an MC Stradale was my next likely purchase, I've been searching the forums to find a comparison between the two.

Firstly, the fit and finish of the interior was very impressive. The driving position was perfect, the seats comfortable and everything generally felt well put together. In comparison, I felt the opposite about Astons I have been in from the same era, they seemed creaky and fragile.

Exterior they were the same, however I do feel that the MC Stradale sits nicer, the regular Skyhook suspension makes the car much higher at the rear for some reason and therefore doesn't look as "sure of itself" as the Stradale.

The regular GT was quite literally that, a GT, it was quite soft, there wasn't too much feel, it made an incredible noise but you could tell the car really just wanted to cruise. I was impressed with the handling when put in to Sport mode, but it didn't feel like a car where you were supposed to be throwing it in to corners even though it actually handled them quite well.

For me personally, I have a daily Lexus that I just bat around in, so I don't need a soft comfortable car, but if I wanted a nice daily cruiser that looked and sounded epic then I would recommend the Maserati over most other options. I'd say until you get to a budget up to about £60k, then I would recommend people looking at the Lexus LC500 because that's got the same Maserati values but trumps it with the newer technology and design.

The MC Stradale was exactly what I wanted it to be, it was a car which kept reminding you it was there, when you were driving it it didn't let you forget about it. If the GT was a big Great Dane which didn't disturb you much and just lay around chilling and keeping you company, yet still impressive and a joy to be around, the MC Stradale was a German Shepherd, filled with energy and constantly wanting to play and get attention, but you had a feeling that too much of it would wear you out.

Immediately driving away in the MC Stradale I noticed the suspension was much stiffer, I had watched and read reviews and they said that it was a very compliant suspension given the nature of it, but I still found it to be crashy at times. But when it came to handling roundabouts and corners, immediately I felt the positives. It turned in much quicker and gripped better, each corner and junction was more of an event in this car, especially in race mode when you had to do the shifting yourself, where as in the regular version shifting yourself kind of felt a bit silly as it could do it itself just fine and without you noticing, a bit like when you give a toddler a video game controller that isn't plugged in just so you can make them think they're playing.

The Stradale just constantly wanted to go, it wasn't comfortable not accelerating, it just wanted you to make your way through the revs constantly.

My biggest worry was whether I would like the gearbox as I have driven an F430 and hated how lurchy it was. At the beginning of the drive I immediately felt that lurchiness and hated it. I went in to manual mode and it was still lurching on the upshift, but after I let off the accelerator it would be a smooth shift. This was a relief and to be honest I kind of liked it. I remember a Top Gear episode where Clarkson said that there's something that connects you to a car where it's a car that only you know how to get the best out of it, and that was the rewarding feeling I was getting after performing every upshift smoothly.

My GF didn't like the gearbox, in fact her conclusion was that she preferred the regular GT, but thankfully she has her own cars and doesn't have much influence over my purchasing. She drives the Alpine A110 so she likes her small nimble cars. I also think that once I've gotten used to the gearbox I'll be able to drive it smoother.

One thing I didn't expect is the bad condition of most Stradale's. I've looked at a couple now and I haven't found one that I feel has been well looked after. But it's not a car that a non-car enthusiast should buy as it's a terrible car for just driving in auto mode and pootling around town or cruising on the motorway, so why are people buying them who aren't going to look after them, get them serviced and dealers/specialists and maintain them. The interiors on some of them have been horrendous with bits of trim missing, scratches everywhere and holes in the leather.

I'm going to hold out for the best one I can find and afford, thankfully I'm in no rush as it may take some time.
Welcome to the best club. A nice one will come along for you. Just put it in race and you will smile everytime it tries to rip your head off on an upshift. I did the same trip as doohickey. They are happy cruising at the speed limit or doing north of 165 on the motorways. You will not regret your choice. I came from a zf and for the type of driving I use the car for, I would not go back to an auto.
 

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I have chopped through about 8 Maseratis over the years, changing each time after a couple of years, then I bought a Strad 5/6 years ago and I’ve not changed since nor have any plans too.

I don’t get the poor condition thing I can only think you are looking at the cheap end of the market.

Buy from a rep dealer like RG or from an enthusiast off here. They cherish them and they certainly won’t be lacking.

I have flipped a few when they get offered, prep them fully and they sell instantly. The last Strad I bought at 9am on a Monday and it sold by 3pm the same day.
 

GeoffCapes

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I doubt anyone who drives a Strad drives it in anything less than Sport or Race. In my MC Shift, the only time I didn't drive it in Sport was when I drove away from my house early in the morning (the neighbours still complained).
 
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I doubt anyone who drives a Strad drives it in anything less than Sport or Race. In my MC Shift, the only time I didn't drive it in Sport was when I drove away from my house early in the morning (the neighbours still complained).
I can second that never out of sport or race always use the paddles
 

azapa

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Late here, OP, but that clunkiness/lurching in first gear will disappear over time as you get used to it, and also, when you let the F1 system prime longer before start-up - put the key in and turn to the position just before the starter motor spins, and wait until the airbag light stops flashing before turning through.

I'd (rather obviously) recommend you try a 2 seater before you buy a later model, it's a rawer experience again. (and more fun IMHO, ducks for cover...:).
 

AlpineAlex

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Late here, OP, but that clunkiness/lurching in first gear will disappear over time as you get used to it, and also, when you let the F1 system prime longer before start-up - put the key in and turn to the position just before the starter motor spins, and wait until the airbag light stops flashing before turning through.

I'd (rather obviously) recommend you try a 2 seater before you buy a later model, it's a rawer experience again. (and more fun IMHO, ducks for cover...:).

Thanks for the advice!

I love the idea of the 2-seater mainly for the bucket seats. I love bucket seats and feel they add to the driving experience of a car.

However, I already have an Alpine A110 and I'm buying the Stradale as a fun car which can carry more people and also more practical. So I'm leaning towards a 4-seater.