How to adjust rear tie rods

[exporschdrivr]

I changed my rear tie roads because of shot dust covers and also the old ones have a bit of play.

And now I do not get it how to adjust them. So there are 2 locknuts, a sleeve and the tie rod itself. As I was assembling the new tie rod I put the sleeve all they way trough the tie rod. So it was the shortest possible length of the tie rod and I could assembly everything back together.

With the tie rod in place I screwed the sleeve all the way in into the wishbone just to recognize I have to much toe out. Then I tried to get the wheel parallel with the body and I turned the sleeve. I get more toe in, but there are nearly no threads left on the tie rod.

As I moved the sleeve I had the feeling the sleeve is coming out of the wishbone and moves on the tie rod, but the tie rod itself is nearly not moving.

And If I would need more toe in, there are no threads on the tie rod left and I could not use the locknut.

Is there any explanation how to adjust it properly?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Zep]

You will see that the threads in the different parts of the socket are different thread pitches. This means that if you turn the middle socket anti clockwise this increases the length of the socket, but at the same time reduces the effective length of the tie rod. Because of the different thread pitches, the net effect is a bit more toe in.

The best way to do it, if you don’t have the lengths of each section from before you took it apart, is to put the wheel roughly parallel and then measure the distance. Then set up the rod to that length with all of the threads roughly in the middle of their length. This will give you the best chance of adjusting it without running out of thread.

 

[conaero]

Zep, those replacement rods were £200 each plus shipping from that Italian site. It’s a bit steep but have no option.

Does anyone have a pair of oem rods who have upgraded to the CW aftermarket rods?

 

[Zep]

Zep, those replacement rods were £200 each plus shipping from that Italian site. It’s a bit steep but have no option.

Does anyone have a pair of oem rods who have upgraded to the CW aftermarket rods?

Crikey, that a lot of cash!

 

[exporschdrivr]

The best way to do it, if you don’t have the lengths of each section from before you took it apart, is to put the wheel roughly parallel and then measure the distance. Then set up the rod to that length with all of the threads roughly in the middle of their length. This will give you the best chance of adjusting it without running out of thread.

I already thought to do so, but couldn‘t imagine thats the right way.

Is there a bulletin or something like that with a starting point or do the maserati workshops really measure before they disasembly the tie rods?

 

[Zep]

I’ve never seen a bulletin and I cannot see how else would they do it. It is the same way you would change a steering rod end, measure and count the turns. If you have lost your reference points, this is the only method that will get close.

The whole thing is a brain twister, until you figure out how it works you have no chance!

 

[exporschdrivr]

I’ve never seen a bulletin and I cannot see how else would they do it. It is the same way you would change a steering rod end, measure and count the turns. If you have lost your reference points, this is the only method that will get close.

The whole thing is a brain twister, until you figure out how it works you have no chance!

yes, it really is

I personally never count the threads, because I have to do a aligmnet anyway…

but this is the first time I had the feeling there ist no enough thread left for a proper aligmnet. But now I know how the initial procedure looks like.

thank you

 

[exporschdrivr]

I think a good starting point is when the sleeve is exactly above the thread of the tie rod.

With the sleeve in the wishbone it seems to have negative toe. One or two threads out the toe seems to look neutral... I hope the alignmet will work out, I will keep you informed

 

[exporschdrivr]

If anybody has the same issue, unbolting the rear tie rods without measuring the threads: put them back as described above. Alignment went well on mine