How to add keys to a Ghibli (Or how I learned to stop worrying and love an RKE...)

CatmanV2

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Perhaps not the post anyone is expecting, *everyone* know that it's simple to add keys to Ghibli cars. Buy a new key (£470 from Scuderia) and pay someone to 'program' it (£200 I've heard from a dealer, £90 from my local auto locksmith.

OR you can do it for £19 (in my case). If you would know more, dear reader, read on.

Technical difficulty: Medium
Potential to screw it up: Low
Impact if you do screw it up: Potentially catastrophic but you *probably* will just need to get a local auto locksmith to come and bail you out.

You will need: (Links to buy at the end)
iPhone (Had this already)
Autel AP200 (I had this already, and would recommend that anyone has it, and gets the free brand for their Maserati. Great piece of kit)
Autel *Chrysler* software pack (assuming you've used your free one for the Maserati) £19.99

Android phone (Borrowed from work)
ELM327 compatible OBDII (had one of these already, but if you need one £8.99
Chrysler Pin Puller software for your Android phone (Free, but I have heard some people needed to buy 15 tokens for $19

A key (dur) Ebay if you want a second hand genuine one, or Aliexpress: (Must be 433MHz and full key with boot opening, not remote start): £22.08

Total cost to me: £42 plus some postage (actually less than that as my key turned up damaged and I got a £13 refund....)

First things first. It *may* be possible to copy / clone an existing key to another key (not the type I've linked below). Never felt this was a good idea, as if you lose one key, anyone that finds it can use your car. You can't delete one key from the car since they are the same and the car can't tell the difference. Also, if you do pair your personal settings with the key fob, it's not going to work as (again) the car will see the keys as the same.

From the above, it may be clear that they key is NOT programmed to the car, but, just like the 4200 and GT, the CAR is programmed to accept the key. I've not gone totally step by step here, but happy to answer questions:

1) Plug your ELM OBD device into your OBD port.
2) Using your Android pone, pair the bluetooth to the ELM327 and connect to it (mine was always flaky but managed in the end)
3) Install the Chrysler Pin Puller software.
4) Make sure you have a good internet connection for your Android phone
5) Open the Pin Puller and connect it to your ELM327. (There is a big button for this purpose)
6) Press 'Select Type' in the Pin Puller software and select RHF_1 2012-2014
7) Buy tokens if needed
8) Press start.
9) Wait (in my case about 2 seconds) and you'll be rewarded with your VIN, a part number, and critically a PIN. Make a *careful* note of this.
10) Disconnect the ELM and put your Android phone away
11) Plug your AP200 into your OBD port
12) Connect to your iPhone
13) Open the MaxiAP200 programme that you installed when you set up your AP200 with your iPhone
14) Hit 'Service'
15) Hit 'Immo keys'
16) Select 'Chrysler'
17) Select 'Manual Selection' (There will be a delay as data is loaded)
18) Select 2014 from the year
18) Select Hot Function
19) Program Ignition fobiks (RFH)
20) Press OK
21) Ignition off
22) Enter you pin from step 9
23) Select 'Yes'
24) Press OK on the message
25) When the next message comes up, hold the key near the start button (not the central console, though I doubt it makes much difference) and press the unlock button
26) Press OK
27) Wait for the progress bar to complete
28) You *should* get a message that the FOBIK was successfully programmed. If not it will suggest you try again. You can test success by pressing the lock button, and LO! the doors will lock.
29) Enjoy






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Autel AP200

ELM327 type OBD scanner



(As you might expect, this key finish was not quite as good as the original. The case was a little too snug, causing the buttons to stick down. Also I failed on the programming step a couple of times. This *might* have been a flat battery in the fob, might have been the buttons sticking, most likely was me not reading the instructions and doing what I saw on a video that I used for reasearch)

I am more than happy to do this for anyone else who wants it, in exchange for suitable recompense (I normally charge a bottle of malt) ;)

Two caveats:
1) Have no idea if this will work on later cars, but I have a deep suspicion that it will)
2) If you screw it up, or it screws up, I accept no responsibility.

Any questions, please holler. I may have got a couple of the later steps out of order or missing, I didn't note them as I was going (I really wasn't sure it was going to work as there were so many variables) and it's dark and pissing it down outside) Happy to go back and check.

I fancy a drink :)

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conaero

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That is good especially the cheep keys. Have actually held one? How solid is it?
 

CatmanV2

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That is good especially the cheep keys. Have actually held one? How solid is it?

Very very difficult to tell the difference (yes I held one, this was me this evening)

As I said, mine was damaged in transit:

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But with some careful filing:

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Just stuck them on the scales as well:
Chinesium key: 94g
Italian key: 95g....


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montravia

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It'd be interesting to see if this would work with a GT,can't see why not.

Could have saved me a whole load last time buying a replacement and getting it programmed in Solihull
 

CatmanV2

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It'd be interesting to see if this would work with a GT,can't see why not.

Could have saved me a whole load last time buying a replacement and getting it programmed in Solihull

There will be a similar process but AFAIK the GT is not Stellantis and does not share the Dodge / Chrysler components. This means you may need more expensive kit.

Very fast googling inicates that a Maxis IM608 can do it, but that's a £4k toy.....

But! There is also a throwaway comment on another video that it's the 'same as the Alfa 147' in which case I'd suspect that either Multiecuscan (which I have) or AlfaOBD (which I don't) can do it. AlfaOBD can pull the pin from the Ghibli as well.....

Can't recall where you are, but happy to give it a non risky try with MutiECUscan if you like

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montravia

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There will be a similar process but AFAIK the GT is not Stellantis and does not share the Dodge / Chrysler components. This means you may need more expensive kit.

Very fast googling inicates that a Maxis IM608 can do it, but that's a £4k toy.....

But! There is also a throwaway comment on another video that it's the 'same as the Alfa 147' in which case I'd suspect that either Multiecuscan (which I have) or AlfaOBD (which I don't) can do it. AlfaOBD can pull the pin from the Ghibli as well.....

Can't recall where you are, but happy to give it a non risky try with MutiECUscan if you like

C
Thank you Cat. It'd be an interesting experiment. If I recall, you're near Chelmsford, I'm Cotswolds, but a nice day out either way
 

CatmanV2

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Thank you Cat. It'd be an interesting experiment. If I recall, you're near Chelmsford, I'm Cotswolds, but a nice day out either way

Was thinking more on this:
1) The GT has a static coded RFID chip in the key.
2) Others have found a similar *writeable* chip to which they can copy data from an existing key.
3) The process of adding a key to the car involves deleting *all* the existing keys. This is a concern. If for any reason we can't add even your old key, you're going nowhere.....

While I love a good day out, I think I might decide discretion is the better part of valour in this case, but I will do some more looking!

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CatmanV2

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Another note on this, just nipped to my local key guy (fabulous family business) and ask him to copy the blade. Only caveat was that since he didn't supply it, he wouldn't guarantee it.

8 of my English Earth pounds later, and that works perfectly as well....

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montravia

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Was thinking more on this:
1) The GT has a static coded RFID chip in the key.
2) Others have found a similar *writeable* chip to which they can copy data from an existing key.
3) The process of adding a key to the car involves deleting *all* the existing keys. This is a concern. If for any reason we can't add even your old key, you're going nowhere.....

While I love a good day out, I think I might decide discretion is the better part of valour in this case, but I will do some more looking!

C
Agreed