Hello! Looking for a 4200

[Outlaw]

I've been lurking on here for a few months now.

I've finally decided that I would like a 4.2 coupe however finding one that fits my criteria is not easy.

Ideally I would like a manual with 7 spoke alloys, facelift is possible for less than 15k. I am only a stone throw away from Shiltech which is nice when the time comes.

I have read that a PPI is a must when buying one of these cars, but what about buying one from a well known specialist, would you still bother with one?

 

[philw696]

Welcome 4200 is a great car had mine which has the F1 box for 3 years just awesome. Check our own specialist Richard Grace.
Phil.

 

[dickygrace]

Welcome 4200 is a great car had mine which has the F1 box for 3 years just awesome. Check our own specialist Richard Grace.
Phil.

Thanks for the recommendation, a facelift car is worth the premium over an early car if buying a cambiocorsa but less so with a manual as most of the developments were to the gearbox and the software that runs it. I'd always recommend a PPI by a reputable specialist. I do them before listing but I think that's a pretty rare thing to do.

 

[bigbob]

Welcome. That's exactly what I had. Facelift manuals are rare cars so it might take a while.

 

[Outlaw]

Richard Grace cars are nice however a little out of my price range.

I think I may have to accept that I'll be waiting a long time to get exactly what I want so I may have to look at cambiocorsa's. The thing thats puts me off these is some people saying the change is slow.

How does a F1 box compare to a manual for wear and reliability?

There are 2 cars for sale now that I like the look of if I considered buying an cambiocorsa.

 

[dickygrace]

A cambiocorsa driven correctly and in sport mode should last 30-40000 miles on a new clutch. The change on early cars is slow, improved on some 03 cars (the ones without the beesting aerial and ASR button not MSP) then better again on a facelift or Gransport. Even on a Gransport the change is slow unless in sport mode, always drive it in sport whichever model it is as it greatly speeds up the gear change.

 

[Outlaw]

The wear rate seems ok then but what about the pump. Is the pump prone to breaking?

Also how readily available are parts for these cars? Are most service items available same/next day?

 

[dickygrace]

Some folk have mentioned on here about F1 pumps although personally I've never known of one to fail. There's a thread here: http://www.sportsmaserati.co.uk/sho...mp-removal-and-fitting-instructions-With-pics

It was £290 inc vat plus fitting; which is a bargain. As far as parts, the vast majority are easy to get hold of, some inordinately expensive, some reasonable. Eurospares have most parts in stock I believe although I only use Maserati OEM parts.

 

[Brendan]

Does the manual clutch last any longer?

 

[CatmanV2]

I'm curious about the change speed that people say is 'slow'. I don't *recall* shifting any faster than my CC can manage. Granted in some circumstances it can get confused, but surely I'm, not *that* rubbish

C

 

[dickygrace]

Does the manual clutch last any longer?

Some say it does but it can't be accurately measured.

 

[Brendan]

Some say it does but it can't be accurately measured.

Thanks there

 

[safrane]

I read the the clutch lasts for a similar number of gear shifts but CC users change more often as the system is such a joy to use.

 

[dickygrace]

I read the the clutch lasts for a similar number of gear shifts but CC users change more often as the system is such a joy to use.

I'd agree with that as it's the same component.

 

[CatmanV2]

I read the the clutch lasts for a similar number of gear shifts but CC users change more often as the system is such a joy to use.

It certainly can be a joy. I do change more often than I used to in a manual, as it's so *easy*

C

 

[safrane]

Nice Grand Cabrio Dicky

 

[dickygrace]

Nice Grand Cabrio Dicky

Thanks, lovely car, only got it yesterday.

 

[Roger]

I was under the impression that the software on early cars can be updated?

I'm sure this has been done on my 2002 Cambiocorsa?

Rgd's

Roger

 

[Khamsin433]

Some say it does but it can't be accurately measured.

Mine has done 37K and I've run into issues which are down to hydraulics. But as they're taking it apart I'm having the clutch done at the same time as more than likely it's the slave.

So that backs up the similar miles statement, though it is only one example.

 

[Parisien]

They also up-dated the clutch so post 2005 or thereabouts they are more robust and last longer......ask Marios, I seem to remember he hadn't changed an up-dated clutch yet ...as of last summer



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