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If over £30000 buy an average GS Spyder....and if over £40000...buy a nice one.
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If over £30000 buy an average GS Spyder....and if over £40000...buy a nice one.
highlander
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Hmm, and do you think Maserati will be any more committed to these models in the future than they are to the previous models from 3200 backwards? I seriously doubt it. Imo they are nothing more than hounds for the new pounds. Any resolution to unavailable parts will have to come from owners it seems.
According to RAC and many other websites the 2001 model 3200 GT was reconstructed and suffers from less problems!
http://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-reviews/maserati/3200gt/207934/
http://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-reviews/maserati/3200gt/207934/
allandwf
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It wasn't reconstructed, as such. It had a few niggles ironed out, and it will be OBDII compliant, which helps.
Paul - H
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I bought my 3200 in October last year, aware of the shortage of new parts, didn't put me off, will use it when I want to, if I have to buy second hand or refurbished parts then so be it, if I need a donor car then I'll buy one, this car is just for fun, i don't think many use them as a daily driver these days.
I ran a 1971 BMW 2002tii from 1981 - 2008 as a fun car, it often sat around waiting for parts, I broke up 5 spares cars to keep it going, still have some bits in the loft, eventually BMW set up Mobile Tradition, parts were very expensive but it won't stop a true enthusiast willing to wait, Maserati in its current form wouldn't bother with a historic arm, but what the **** live for today.
I ran a 1971 BMW 2002tii from 1981 - 2008 as a fun car, it often sat around waiting for parts, I broke up 5 spares cars to keep it going, still have some bits in the loft, eventually BMW set up Mobile Tradition, parts were very expensive but it won't stop a true enthusiast willing to wait, Maserati in its current form wouldn't bother with a historic arm, but what the **** live for today.
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Exactly, Marios is assuming we do mega miles in them but in reality most probably do a few K per year max!
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Regrettably I think I might be one that now doesn't buy. Hankered after a manual 3200 ever since driving one in 2003 but reputation for trouble, justified or not, plus heavy depreciation kept me away. However, with prices having bottomed out a couple of years ago I now felt ready to take the plunge.
As an ex Porsche guy I find it ridiculous to learn from this forum that you can't even obtain maintenance essentials such as a clutch or timing chain for a 15 year old car. Brexit may even worsten parts availability and cost in the UK. I want a car I can drive 3 or 4k p.a. every annum. I think press articles have helped the rise of 3200 prices but the classic car boom will bust as soon as other traditional investment "vehicles" become more attractive. I'd then be left with a car I couldn't sell, if I needed to, or maybe even keep on the road driving as it should.
Maybe I should compromise and look at a GS as perhaps a 2 year proposition. The red one at Nuvola looks stunning to my eyes and not outrageously priced (assume early or "non LE" cars are worth less?). In all likelihood I suspect my focus will turn to the GTS, which is looking like a better value, more sensible but just as desirable, proposition to me.
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The GS is a lovely car and was tempted, but like manual cars with bonkers engine. Years ago struggled to get parts for a Alfa Montreal, everyone said I shouldn't have bought it, not that fast, expensive to maintain, parts availability was difficult, don't regret it, enjoyed it, kept it, rebuilt it, enjoyed the coffers in the bank when sold, but that wasn't the reason for buying it.
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Just when it was beginning to feel like we had got the naysayers here to see sense about putting down our cars we find another way as Maserati enthusiasts to put people off our cars by saying don't buy "this model". Have thought about this for quite a bit today and even with a tinge of possible truth to what he said, I think Marios was irresponsible and wrong to make such a public statement. I realise he is a respected seller and member so did think long and hard about saying this, but that is also why I think he should not have posted such a negative comment without identifying how we could resolve it. As an investor in us buying these cars I would have expected some leadership from him to a problem we all know exists due to ambivalence in the maser HQ, not simply throwing his hands up and stating we should move on. But if you accept what the situation is and the alternative as suggested, then I remind you what I said earlier, if people think it will be safer buying a 42, GS or even a GT, then think again, there are no signs that Maserati will support them either in the future.......the only way these cars will continue is firstly by donor cars then by engineering solutions.
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Indeed Phil. On your death bed, you won't regret the things you did.....you will regret the things you didn't do.
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I am very sorry Guys , all I was trying to do is make you all aware of how difficult it is to get parts not to stop you buying the cars .
As I mentioned earlier I personally would buy one of my previous cars back .
I just think it was important for all of you to hear the truth on this matter .
As I mentioned earlier I personally would buy one of my previous cars back .
I just think it was important for all of you to hear the truth on this matter .
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Isn't it just a question of Supply and demand in the end? If there are less parts around then yes the prices will go up, which in turn will make the lesser cars become donor cars and those will then help keep the good cars going. I reckon this will be well way beyond 10 years if not another 100 years!
There are also no more parts Officially available for any 1950's, 1960's, 1970's or 1980's Maserati's, yet there are plenty of boras, meraks, 3500, Mistrals etc. On the road and most looking better than when they came out of the factory.
Yes it will probably not be as easy or as simply going onto the Internet to find the part, but that's what happens to classic cars. - there are plenty of cars on the road today for which there are no parts to be purchased in the normal way, but, that doesn't mean that they won't be available, just priced accordingly.
And As long as there is a community like this one on sportsmaserati, then there will be solutions. For example davys throttle pot is a good example as well as the brake discs that were made by the forum.
There will always be a solution to any problem. In some sense this makes our cars so special and highlights the need to look after them properly. Anyway - just my two pennies on the matter.
There are also no more parts Officially available for any 1950's, 1960's, 1970's or 1980's Maserati's, yet there are plenty of boras, meraks, 3500, Mistrals etc. On the road and most looking better than when they came out of the factory.
Yes it will probably not be as easy or as simply going onto the Internet to find the part, but that's what happens to classic cars. - there are plenty of cars on the road today for which there are no parts to be purchased in the normal way, but, that doesn't mean that they won't be available, just priced accordingly.
And As long as there is a community like this one on sportsmaserati, then there will be solutions. For example davys throttle pot is a good example as well as the brake discs that were made by the forum.
There will always be a solution to any problem. In some sense this makes our cars so special and highlights the need to look after them properly. Anyway - just my two pennies on the matter.
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Mario's is right and that's why I'm not a Maserati Technician anymore.
Wish I had the opportunity 10 years ago.
They are only interested in selling new and its all about the money.
I could have stayed and finished my career there but I knew it would be like a bad marriage.
I suggest to keep the proper Maserati's going we need to support people like Marios where together solutions to problems can be found.
Maserati will not do it as we all well know.
Wish I had the opportunity 10 years ago.
They are only interested in selling new and its all about the money.
I could have stayed and finished my career there but I knew it would be like a bad marriage.
I suggest to keep the proper Maserati's going we need to support people like Marios where together solutions to problems can be found.
Maserati will not do it as we all well know.
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Marios has been looking after Maserati owners for some 33 years now and offering a real world solution to the main dealers.
He has shared his insight as to what is happening behind the scenes and the every day battle he faces to meet customer demand and for that we should be thankful.
Some on here might not be receptive of this but it's better to know the situation legacy Maserati owners face so we can all come together and explore solutions.
Today, it's 3200 owners, tomorrow it will be 4200 owners and not long after it will be GranTurismo owners. It's just a fact of life that as the cars age, the parts become harder to source.
My 1968 Opel GT hits 50 next year and after decades of parts wilderness, today, 95% of parts are available due to likeminded individuals refusing to give up and source alternative methods.
That's what makes forums like ours so valuable in the support of older models.
He has shared his insight as to what is happening behind the scenes and the every day battle he faces to meet customer demand and for that we should be thankful.
Some on here might not be receptive of this but it's better to know the situation legacy Maserati owners face so we can all come together and explore solutions.
Today, it's 3200 owners, tomorrow it will be 4200 owners and not long after it will be GranTurismo owners. It's just a fact of life that as the cars age, the parts become harder to source.
My 1968 Opel GT hits 50 next year and after decades of parts wilderness, today, 95% of parts are available due to likeminded individuals refusing to give up and source alternative methods.
That's what makes forums like ours so valuable in the support of older models.
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I think for what its worth 3200 and then 4200/ GS's will become a very rare sight on the roads in 10 to 15 years time. Donar cars from write offs will dwindle to next to nothing to offer parts solutions. Yes engineering solutions will become available but more on small batch or case by case scenario as there just isnt a mass market like for example with MGB's.
You may well get to a point where a car that would be written off now as a parts car raises more money as a restored car due to the rarity.
There are still plenty of 4200s and 3200s being used as daily cars but when all we are left with is small batch or specific part engineering solutions then most that are left will become garage queens just being enjoyed on the odd occasion as the risk of being off the road for extended periods waiting for parts will become greater as the years go on.
Its a shame that the engineered solutions only appear when the market for them has shrunk to minimal numbers. If the small market solutions existed earlier then more cars may be saved from becoming parts cars.
In a lot of ways its a shame that car manufacturers dont HAVE to share a lot of common parts as that would keep many more vehicles viable for longer.
Who knows in 15 years we may not be able to put petrol in cars to run them at which point we are all owning museum pieces.
Lets just hope necessity provides the engineering solutions that we will all need one day in our ownership.
You may well get to a point where a car that would be written off now as a parts car raises more money as a restored car due to the rarity.
There are still plenty of 4200s and 3200s being used as daily cars but when all we are left with is small batch or specific part engineering solutions then most that are left will become garage queens just being enjoyed on the odd occasion as the risk of being off the road for extended periods waiting for parts will become greater as the years go on.
Its a shame that the engineered solutions only appear when the market for them has shrunk to minimal numbers. If the small market solutions existed earlier then more cars may be saved from becoming parts cars.
In a lot of ways its a shame that car manufacturers dont HAVE to share a lot of common parts as that would keep many more vehicles viable for longer.
Who knows in 15 years we may not be able to put petrol in cars to run them at which point we are all owning museum pieces.
Lets just hope necessity provides the engineering solutions that we will all need one day in our ownership.