future classics?

Andy Marshall

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I was talking to someone today who reckoned that the 4200/spyder/gransport series cars would never been considered as "classics" and as such would never be worth very much.......

is he right? I don't own mine for any reasons of future fortune, but nevertheless to suggest that these cars are not desirable and thus unlikely to rise in value is silly, isn't it?
 
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They will be desirable to the right person, I can also see the other side of it, that they being modern and almost mass produced, personally I have no desire to own either, they are great cars, just not for me at this moment in time.
 

2b1ask1

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I don't know the fella but I'd say he is using his anus to talk and you probably need to invest in some waders...

If people are happy to spend upwards of £40k on a Dagenham Dustbin MkI Escort it follows that any car that survives will aspire in value to some extent. Look at some of the vehicles that are considered classics today. Moving onto the age of the 4200/Spyder/Gransport so 2002-2006 I cannot think of a vehicle that is already considered a Classic in the true sense. The best reference to use would be the 3200 which is now 20+ years old and is considered a far better choice of classic than the Bi-Turbos and QP's that preceded it with the exception possibly of the Shamal. The share the same (more or less) body with a superior and near bomb proof engine. They remain an easy every day driver if you want to use them as such. I can see them easily attaining classic status by the time they are 20+
 

Contigo

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He’s talking ****. The 30 year rule will add value to the 3200 in 10 years just like it did to the E30 M3’s and the Delta Integrale..
 
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I also think who ever you were talking too was talking out of their hole. What did they drive?

Dicky already seems to sell good quality, low mile 4200 / GS for a decent price so they are already desirable.

More time and less availability of decent ones will drive prices.

I don’t expect my GS to be my pension pot but I definitely won’t loose any money on it.
 
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Well it’s all down to rarity, miles, condition, service history, performance, and - the killer - perceived attractiveness. This is the variable that allows other people to come up with very different views to the positive opinion you will inevitably get on a marque’s forum.

For me a low mileage, well maintained 3200/4200/GS will do well but at what cost in maintenance, cost of capital, tax, insurance etc? Personally I prefer my Maserati’s to drive and something stuck in the garage for 1000 miles a year on the hope that it goes up in value is a waste of a valuable parking spot. Each to their own mind.
 

conaero

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Andy, I take it your fella was a German car fan?

Rare, Italian, V8, highly desirable brand and respected Ferrari engine.....spin on 10 years and we are all driving electric!

Merak SS at near £100k and let’s face it, they are not particularly very good cars.
 
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I was talking to someone today who reckoned that the 4200/spyder/gransport series cars would never been considered as "classics" and as such would never be worth very much.......

is he right? I don't own mine for any reasons of future fortune, but nevertheless to suggest that these cars are not desirable and thus unlikely to rise in value is silly, isn't it?
I might be wrong/biased, but think the manual 4200 will rise in value before too long. There are very few similar performance cars available with a manual gearbox since the 4200. I don't think any of the new Ferraris are available with a manual box. Anyone looking for this will have to look for used and there are only so many to go around.
I continue to use and love mine, but it wouldn't surprise me if the appreciation soon meets running costs.
https://www.parkers.co.uk/used-cars/best-modern-classics/
 
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He’s talking ****. The 30 year rule will add value to the 3200 in 10 years just like it did to the E30 M3’s and the Delta Integrale..
There is that but looking at Maseratis over 30 years old it applies it's to some but not all.
 

mjheathcote

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I might be wrong/biased, but think the manual 4200 will rise in value before too long. There are very few similar performance cars available with a manual gearbox since the 4200. I don't think any of the new Ferraris are available with a manual box. Anyone looking for this will have to look for used and there are only so many to go around.
I continue to use and love mine, but it wouldn't surprise me if the appreciation soon meets running costs.
https://www.parkers.co.uk/used-cars/best-modern-classics/
Always nice to see, they forecast a healthy rise in value, it's all crystal ball stuff of course.
 
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I guess one thing to factor in will be fuel for any classic car in 30 years...will you be able to find it and will you be able to drive a 100% carbon fueled vehicle on public roads?
 
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That's a good point Pete. With the proposed ban on new diesel and petrol cars in 2040 I suppose it could all be irrelevant.
 
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We will probably have gone full circle by 2040 then start switching back to petrol / diesel. After the majority have been persuaded to go battery power
 

babel 101

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Andy, I take it your fella was a German car fan?

Rare, Italian, V8, highly desirable brand and respected Ferrari engine.....spin on 10 years and we are all driving electric!

Merak SS at near £100k and let’s face it, they are not particularly very good cars.
It´s true Merak, with a price is high.
the time Tomaso I think it is the most negative step of maserati (accepted spider zagato and ghibli)
In spain the people are afraid of the store parts of 3200/4200 /Gransport/ spider
 

babel 101

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That's a good point Pete. With the proposed ban on new diesel and petrol cars in 2040 I suppose it could all be irrelevant.
In the future, classic gasoline cars will be the object of collection. If electric cars enter the end of gasoline will be postponed more (20XX> 2040).


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