Falkens replaced for Kumho's

conaero

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Well, its no secret of my love affair with Falken 452's.

I ran them on my GS, and I ran them on my Alfa GT.

...but I have found a better tyre.

Kumho Ecsta Sport

They are on special at the moment and Falkens have gone up circa £20 per tyre, due to supply and demand, so that did not please me. The Falkens have excellent grip and wear well too but my problem with them was the noise....basically at cruise on the motorways. I sit at 100mph when I am cruising (on private track of course) and the Falkens make a right old racket.

I am please to report the Kumho's are much, much quieter.

If you are unsure about their pedigree or history, they are South Korean made, and are OEM fitment on Mercedes Benz, Chrysler, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, and Volkswagen

If you get the chance, I would recommend you try them.
 

Parisien

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Indie test on them Matt.............?!...........must be good in the wet or at least........reduce the chance of aquaplaning by 2-3%....;)


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toomanyhorses

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That's interesting. Will be getting a set of tyres v soon in the 4200 I'm picking up this week and wanted to ask peoples recommendations.

There's 3mm all round of P-zero rosso's on there at the mo, which I'm going to take off and save for the track.

What else have you tried?
 

Parisien

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Less of the persuasive visual eye candy Matt!!!!!!!

Hard facts by an indie test!!!!!


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conaero

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Well, the problem with P Zeros and the Vredsteins is that they have reinforced side walls, which when you hit pot holes, then to rip the tyre, not to even mention making your teeth falling out.

Now, I know this is what you need for the track, they hold the tyre better and reduce the tyre being pulled off the rim. The Falkens are OK on the track but the P Zeros and Vreds will be better. I noticed this when I drove Loz's car at Llandow a few weeks back.

For the road, you can keep the reinforced sidewall in my books, plus I dont know if the Kumhos are reinforced or not, I would assume not at that price.
 

conaero

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Frank, sorry I miss understood. Are you saying they did come up best in a test, do you have any material to share on the matter?
 

toomanyhorses

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I know it's COMPLETELY the other end of the scale, but I put a set of Kumho tyres on our SWB Shogun a couple of years ago. Big knobbles, very soft, but have barely worn at all. Chain harrow the field with that car, level the riding surface, and are unstoppable in the snow we had last couple of years. At 700 quid were cheaper and much better than the competition

Not 'cheap' tyres, as in budget, but bargain priced. Quality tyres, actually
 

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Liz had a set of Kumhos put on her car yesterday...They seem OK to be honest...
 

conaero

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Indeed Benny so do I.

Suppose only time will tell. I do drive the GT hard so if they are not up to standard ill be putting it into a hedge soon.
 

conaero

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Dem about 535 to a tank no matter how I drive it.

I got over 600 when I drove up to Cheshire a few weeks ago too and it's £85 to fill up.

I also tracked it and through the bends and on the brakes it was immense. It was pretty quick up the straights too but not up to the muscle that was on the track.

Fantastic car.
 

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Well, the problem with P Zeros and the Vredsteins is that they have reinforced side walls, which when you hit pot holes, then to rip the tyre, not to even mention making your teeth falling out.

Now, I know this is what you need for the track, they hold the tyre better and reduce the tyre being pulled off the rim. The Falkens are OK on the track but the P Zeros and Vreds will be better. I noticed this when I drove Loz's car at Llandow a few weeks back.

For the road, you can keep the reinforced sidewall in my books, plus I dont know if the Kumhos are reinforced or not, I would assume not at that price.

I am maybe off piste here but my understanding of a tyre having a re-inforced side wall (being an 'extra load' or XL) was that it added something to the load index of the tyre so if you are not buying an extra load tyre, do you not need to go up a bit in load index?
 

conaero

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Not too sure about this BB, I was of the understanding that the reinforced sidewalls are simply there to stop the tyre movement on the rim. This was the case when we were doing Group N Rally back in the early 2000's. The Toyo's did not have them but the Michelin's did and were more expensive and was solely for this purpose.

Like I said, I am not sure about the load side of it, you could well be correct.
 

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Dem about 535 to a tank no matter how I drive it.

I got over 600 when I drove up to Cheshire a few weeks ago too and it's £85 to fill up.

I also tracked it and through the bends and on the brakes it was immense. It was pretty quick up the straights too but not up to the muscle that was on the track.

Fantastic car.

Im using a bmw 118d for work, a full tank cost me £70 and all im getting is 300 miles max....my job is all town driving, stop start and cold starts but im not happy so need something more economical....those mpg your getting sound good....im trying to work it out