Energy crisis

[jasst]

I am in the standard variable tarrif for E-on so how come it is more than the 28p per KWH?

Any ideas?

I am with E-on as well, your rate is higher because you have economy 7 or something similar, as do I, my day rate is 33.68 p/kwh night rate 17.26 p/kwh, standing charge 43.48 p /day You always have paid more for your day rate if you have economy 7 or similar. Even though I live on my own dishwasher/ washing machine and tumble dryer in winter are all done during the night on the cheaper rate. I have even ditched the standard lamp in my living room as it had a 300w halogen bulb, now have one which takes a 5w and 10w LED bulbs

 

[MrRMB]

I'm considering some solar panels and would appreciate some advice from someone who has gone down this route. We currently use 9-12 kwh per day and heat the house and water with oil - about 1500 litres PA. Thanks

 

[D Walker]

I'm considering some solar panels and would appreciate some advice from someone who has gone down this route. We currently use 9-12 kwh per day and heat the house and water with oil - about 1500 litres PA. Thanks

Best bet is to speak to Dan on here I guess.

 

[mjheathcote]

I'm considering some solar panels and would appreciate some advice from someone who has gone down this route. We currently use 9-12 kwh per day and heat the house and water with oil - about 1500 litres PA. Thanks

Having solar 3 months ago, find someone who will actually quote and has availability of panels and inverter etc.
It's a bit of a mine field tbh, with good and bad installers, who have their own preference to manufactures.
Is your house and roof suitable as a starter for ten.
If it is, I would just max out what roof area you have.
You might have excess generation in the summer, but unlikely in the winter.
A battery will add 40 to 50% extra to the installation, but with the current electricity prices is now making more sense with a reasonable payback.
We are certainly happy with our decision to go solar, especially with the current unit costs, but good luck finding an installer.

 

[3leftovercrest]

Having solar 3 months ago, find someone who will actually quote and has availability of panels and inverter etc.
It's a bit of a mine field tbh, with good and bad installers, who have their own preference to manufactures.
Is your house and roof suitable as a starter for ten.
If it is, I would just max out what roof area you have.
You might have excess generation in the summer, but unlikely in the winter.
A battery will add 40 to 50% extra to the installation, but with the current electricity prices is now making more sense with a reasonable payback.
We are certainly happy with our decision to go solar, especially with the current unit costs, but good luck finding an installer.

What’s the craic with paying for the whole solar installation? Is it a cash payment or are there finance agreements to be had?

 

[Wack61]

"The cost of living crisis is a price worth paying to oppose Putin"; says the bloke who got his mate to buy him some gold wallpaper.

Nice though , very tasteful, money well spent in my opinion , it doesn't look like a set for a comedy show at all.

Do you think he had a suit made out of the same material for hide and seek

 

[GeoffCapes]

What’s the craic with paying for the whole solar installation? Is it a cash payment or are there finance agreements to be had?

Go on the Eon website, they are doing interest free finance on Solar for the home. Their prices are pretty good as well. You can add battery as well.

 

[mjheathcote]

What’s the craic with paying for the whole solar installation? Is it a cash payment or are there finance agreements to be had?

Like buying anything finance is available, whether personal loan, or some sort of finance through the installer.
There isn't government funded finance available though, if that is the question. The only incentive is 0% vat presently, was 5% before I believe.

 

[D Walker]

My mate has a £100k worth of solar work on his books. He can’t buy frames for love nor money. At least not at reasonable costs.

 

[Scaf]

I am beginning to think that high en prices are how the government are going to achieve net zero by 2050.

• so expensive the general public can’t afford it and use as little as possible / produce their own
• so expensive that manufacturers (those nasty carbon producers) can’t afford it so go out of business and stop producing carbon.

 

[D Walker]

I’ve just seen a headline (hope it’s nonsense) that the price cap will be £7700 next April. I wonder why they haven’t considered a profit cap.

 

[mjheathcote]

Go on the Eon website, they are doing interest free finance on Solar for the home. Their prices are pretty good as well. You can add battery as well.

I'd just be careful on who does the install, eon will be subcontracting the work, it might be cheap for a reason.
Before our install saw an installation of a freind of a friend.
Good price, but to me reminded me of the many sky dish installations you saw...
We went with a very local independent installer, the owners of which also lived in the same village. Top quality installation and parts throughout, but not the cheapest. One of our inverters went off line reporting to the internet, they phoned me before I even noticed, asking whether one of their local engineers could call around and check it out, as new firmware was available for our particular inverter.

 

[Zep]

I am beginning to think that high en prices are how the government are going to achieve net zero by 2050.

• so expensive the general public can’t afford it and use as little as possible / produce their own
• so expensive that manufacturers (those nasty carbon producers) can’t afford it so go out of business and stop producing carbon.

As @MarkMas said, it can't be a coincidence that every single person who confuses causation with correlation winds up dead.

I’m pretty sure that Putin isn’t a secret member of Greenpeace, so it’s probably an unintended consequence.

 

[bigbob]

I am beginning to think that high en prices are how the government are going to achieve net zero by 2050.

• so expensive the general public can’t afford it and use as little as possible / produce their own
• so expensive that manufacturers (those nasty carbon producers) can’t afford it so go out of business and stop producing carbon.

The retail price point was always going to be the case long term and government will support low income households along the way (hopefully). Not much carrot but lots of stick. The rotation out of ICE is a bit ruined for now but it will return and once enough people have made the switch (10+ years out) PRT will go up as a green friendly choice and only classic/special ICE cars will survive.

I actually think the oil companies are best placed to solve the energy transition largely to avoid extinction but they have the resources (sorry) and a lot of high quality people. This could be the ultimate green rebranding. Far better than following the Kodak business model.

Apparently India is earning a fortune reselling Russian oil on the ‘clean’ market. Whatever we do in the west, the world has lots of mouths to feed and our Imperial rebranding could be just as bad as what we imposed on the world a couple of centuries ago.

 

[bigbob]

I'm considering some solar panels and would appreciate some advice from someone who has gone down this route. We currently use 9-12 kwh per day and heat the house and water with oil - about 1500 litres PA. Thanks

I have a 4kw system and get up to 500kw per month in summer but a bad winter’s month might only be 50kw. I don’t have a battery - not sure they were around 13 years ago when I installed mine - but at 14kw you would need a lot of Tesla Powerbanks and/or a load more panels to make it work especially as your winter usage might be twice your summer demand. I have an air source heat pump as well. Might be worth a thought but only if you don’t need 60c.

 

[dem maser]

Live on my own, hardly in, I got told my new rate fixed will be £280 pm
Upto now I was paying £75 for both electric and gas
Time is coming closer to moving out and renting the house I feel……

 

[daverichardson]

Same here Dem

 

[Wack61]

My dishwasher sometimes says to me it would be nice if I help too.
All very confusing in French

France is confusing

We rented a gite in Normandy , in the kitchen was a double oven, 3 days in I opened the bottom oven

 

[Phil H]

I am beginning to think that high en prices are how the government are going to achieve net zero by 2050.

• so expensive the general public can’t afford it and use as little as possible / produce their own
• so expensive that manufacturers (those nasty carbon producers) can’t afford it so go out of business and stop producing carbon.

 

[mjheathcote]

My mate has a £100k worth of solar work on his books. He can’t buy frames for love nor money. At least not at reasonable costs.

I'm not surprised, 4 months ago when I was ringing around, another local supplier said they had an order book of 6 months back then, but was struggling to buy the panels. We fell lucky that we were ready to go with scaffolding in place with retile roof, and they had just received a big order of panels so managed to squeeze us in.