Driver window fell into door

maseratimike7

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Just pulled the car out to keep it running until I can get it MOT etc once pre Covid normality returns.

Upon opening door, window didn't drop like usual which I thought was strange, then I pressed the window down button and the window fell into the door.

I have managed to pull it up to provide some sort of seal.

Any tips on how to remove the door cards from a GS or what the problem could be?

Thanks

Mike

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Ianed0

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Theirs a miriad of screws on the door card, you need to

  1. remove the silver trim, there is a slight cutout at the end of it were you can get a small screwdriver or similar and gently prise the trim off, it has notches on the back, take care not to damage the surface or bend the trim when removing, there are a number of screws behind this.
  2. Remove small speaker grill, pull off the speaker wire connector and take out speaker, another screw behind it.
  3. Remove large speaker grill pull off the speaker wire connector unscrew speaker from the mountings, screws under this.
  4. Behind the inner door handle catch there is a small plastic screw cover, remove this and the screw.
  5. Under the main inner door handle, slightly hidden there is another screw.
  6. At the bottom of the door card there is a raised section and there are a number of screws along the underside of this.
  7. And i think lastly underneath the door is a small interior light, remove the reflector on this.
The door card itself is then held in place along the top by some clips behind it so you need to push the door card up to unclip these you should then be able to carefully remove the door card.

I'd advise you make a note of were the screws come from for reassembly.

The window mechanism itself has either broken inside, the ratchet section is prone to snapping, think some people have fashoined a fix for this detailed on here or come adrift from the fixings.

Let me know how you get on.
 

maseratimike7

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Theirs a miriad of screws on the door card, you need to

  1. remove the silver trim, there is a slight cutout at the end of it were you can get a small screwdriver or similar and gently prise the trim off, it has notches on the back, take care not to damage the surface or bend the trim when removing, there are a number of screws behind this.
  2. Remove small speaker grill, pull off the speaker wire connector and take out speaker, another screw behind it.
  3. Remove large speaker grill pull off the speaker wire connector unscrew speaker from the mountings, screws under this.
  4. Behind the inner door handle catch there is a small plastic screw cover, remove this and the screw.
  5. Under the main inner door handle, slightly hidden there is another screw.
  6. At the bottom of the door card there is a raised section and there are a number of screws along the underside of this.
  7. And i think lastly underneath the door is a small interior light, remove the reflector on this.
The door card itself is then held in place along the top by some clips behind it so you need to push the door card up to unclip these you should then be able to carefully remove the door card.

I'd advise you make a note of were the screws come from for reassembly.

The window mechanism itself has either broken inside, the ratchet section is prone to snapping, think some people have fashoined a fix for this detailed on here or come adrift from the fixings.

Let me know how you get on.
Thank you for the advice!

Seems strange that it just decided to break when hasn't been used in a while, however I did hear a clunk when I first closed the door so suspect it had snapped.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks again!

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spkennyuk

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Three alternative options to repair that im aware of.

Take the regulator out and have it re welded.

2nd option is the pin replacement. Link below for the firm that makes them. Although if you have access to a local fabrication company they could come up with a similar fix.


3rd option is the Alfa part as a replacement. Which is from the later 916 but needs modding.

Link below gives you more details.

 

maseratimike7

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Three alternative options to repair that im aware of.

Take the regulator out and have it re welded.

2nd option is the pin replacement. Link below for the firm that makes them. Although if you have access to a local fabrication company they could come up with a similar fix.


3rd option is the Alfa part as a replacement. Which is from the later 916 but needs modding.

Link below gives you more details.

Thanks for the help and links, I'll try and see what's the best option, I think at the moment due to the lack of open work shops ordering the alfa part will number 1.

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maseratimike7

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Got a fabricator shop to spot weld the area and seems to be working for now.

Fingers crossed it holds up and thanks for the advice.

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BL330

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It is one of the GS weak spots. I had the clunk too and had the arm replaced.
I started writing about other weak spots but the list became so long I thought I'd better start a new thread.
 

maseratimike7

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It is one of the GS weak spots. I had the clunk too and had the arm replaced.
I started writing about other weak spots but the list became so long I thought I'd better start a new thread.
Strange that they are made so weak, never had an issue like that from window motor frames on any other marque

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BL330

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Strange that they are made so weak, never had an issue like that from window motor frames on any other marque

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BMW's are notoriously weak in this area. I have had E46 models where this occurred. Believe it was common on early X5's too.
They may have sorted it with current designs though.