Domestic safe

[Wattie]

Worrying thing is, iv seen some video's.....
Not for me

Does someone kiss em better?
Asking for a friend.

 

[safrane]

Overview of burglary and other household theft - Office for National Statistics

Long-term trends in burglary and other household theft, including demographic and nature of crime data.

www.ons.gov.uk

"In the survey year ending March 2017, around 2 in 100 households had been victims of domestic burglary; this compares with around 9 in 100 households in the year ending December 1995, meaning that households are currently four times less likely to be a victim of burglary than in 1995."

So one of the strange things about the above is how ebay has contributed to this.

'Second' hand items are sold legally on there which has impacted in the market for stolen items. Yes of course some stolen items end up on there, but the days of buying a DVD player in a pub are over... this and how cheap electronic items are and that TVs are so dam big.

It is also easier to mug for the portable items too.

What will be interesting is shop lifting... as there are fewer shops where will the smack heads get their stuff to sell for a rock?

 

[Felonious Crud]

So one of the strange things about the above is how ebay has contributed to this.

'Second' hand items are sold legally on there which has impacted in the market for stolen items. Yes of course some stolen items end up on there, but the days of buying a DVD player in a pub are over... this and how cheap electronic items are and that TVs are so dam big.

It is also easier to mug for the portable items too.

What will be interesting is shop lifting... as there are fewer shops where will the smack heads get their stuff to sell for a rock?

Nicked car radios also a thing of the past. They were virtually currency 30 years ago!

 

[midlifecrisis]

Sad state of living in today's World.

It's paranoia. House crime is very rare. The OP didn't lock his doors at night.

As hollywood proves, you can have a lot of security but it can be overidden or circumvented. A lot of baddies have roving patrols of armed to the teeth secuirty guards but James Bond still gets in...

 

[lifes2short]

it's that mentality that it will never happen to you, but one day it may, better to be safe than sorry, excuse the pun

 

[Corranga]

Nicked car radios also a thing of the past. They were virtually currency 30 years ago!

I thought this too, but was on a work call with someone in Nottingham last week whose car radio was stolen the night before. I wonder if there is a stolen to order sort of thing going on like seems to happen sometimes with bumpers and wheels from sports models - I'd imagine an OEM Sat Nav head unit could be fairly valuable, and a worth upgrade nowadays?

 

[lifes2short]

I'd imagine an OEM Sat Nav head unit could be fairly valuable, and a worth upgrade nowadays?

was searching on ebay the other day for a replacement 6 disc cd changer for my 5 series and there dozens on there not to mention as you say oem sat nav units for beemers with again loads of listings who knows how many are genuine and how many are stolen, managed to get a good cd changer for a mere £25 just waiting for the boys in blue to be knocking at my door now

 

[midlifecrisis]

it's that mentality that it will never happen to you, but one day it may, better to be safe than sorry, excuse the pun

I lock my doors at night. Also have double glazing. If they can get in, they are determined so a safe is pointless.

 

[Felonious Crud]

I lock my doors at night. Also have double glazing. If they can get in, they are determined so a safe is pointless.

Bury it, keep the map to where you buried it in your shoe.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Bury it, keep the map to where you buried it in your shoe.

So I'm going to hire some people to 'deshoe' you and I'll find a map to your V12 keys...

 

[Gazcw]

So I'm going to hire some people to 'deshoe' you and I'll find a map to your V12 keys...

Easier to club him on the back of the head when he has them in his hand. No need to do any digging then. Unless you hit him too hard obviously.

 

[lifes2short]

I lock my doors at night. Also have double glazing. If they can get in, they are determined so a safe is pointless.

not sure i would say a safe is pointless, most thieves wouldn't stand a chance in getting in to a proper bolted down cash rated safe and far to heavy to carry out, that's assuming they manage find it

 

[CatmanV2]

not sure i would say a safe is pointless, most thieves wouldn't stand a chance in getting in to a proper bolted down cash rated safe and far to heavy to carry out, that's assuming they manage find it

Back to the 'just threaten you / the kids / the dog until you open it for them.

Most burglaries are opportunistic, and you're right, a safe will prevent the opportunity of taking some of your stuff. Locking the doors and windows helps, but if 'they' think there's stuff worth nicking (Wow! Maserati on the drive, and look at that stereo), any idea how long it takes to break in through a double glazed window? I did it a few years back. About 30 seconds. So the point about hacking or breaking the locks is pretty much null, they'll just go through a window.

So you make sure you have a visible alarm, keep the valuables off obvious display, make sure the place looks secure, and on the vanishingly rare chance that someone does break in (or walks in) hope they don't find everything. As perverse as it sounds, they don't want to be there that much, and are probably scared as well as anything else. <shrug>

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[Felonious Crud]

So I'm going to hire some people to 'deshoe' you and I'll find a map to your V12 keys...

You could... but you don't know where I buried the battery.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Back to the 'just threaten you / the kids / the dog until you open it for them.

Most burglaries are opportunistic, and you're right, a safe will prevent the opportunity of taking some of your stuff. Locking the doors and windows helps, but if 'they' think there's stuff worth nicking (Wow! Maserati on the drive, and look at that stereo), any idea how long it takes to break in through a double glazed window? I did it a few years back. About 30 seconds. So the point about hacking or breaking the locks is pretty much null, they'll just go through a window.

So you make sure you have a visible alarm, keep the valuables off obvious display, make sure the place looks secure, and on the vanishingly rare chance that someone does break in (or walks in) hope they don't find everything. As perverse as it sounds, they don't want to be there that much, and are probably scared as well as anything else. <shrug>

C

Take the radio... then fit AutoAndroid compatible device instead...

 

[lifes2short]

Back to the 'just threaten you / the kids / the dog until you open it for them.

Most burglaries are opportunistic, and you're right, a safe will prevent the opportunity of taking some of your stuff. Locking the doors and windows helps, but if 'they' think there's stuff worth nicking (Wow! Maserati on the drive, and look at that stereo), any idea how long it takes to break in through a double glazed window? I did it a few years back. About 30 seconds. So the point about hacking or breaking the locks is pretty much null, they'll just go through a window.

So you make sure you have a visible alarm, keep the valuables off obvious display, make sure the place looks secure, and on the vanishingly rare chance that someone does break in (or walks in) hope they don't find everything. As perverse as it sounds, they don't want to be there that much, and are probably scared as well as anything else. <shrug>

C

agreed about threaten and i would not hesitate to open safe in those circumstances, it's more when house is vacant that a safe is useful, i've seen locksmiths bump euro cylinder and yale type door locks and it's surprisingly easy with the the right tools, i think the good old house brick would be just as effective but a tad nosier on dg glass

 

[CatmanV2]

agreed about threaten and i would not hesitate to open safe in those circumstances, it's more when house is vacant that a safe is useful, i've seen locksmiths bump euro cylinder and yale type door locks and it's surprisingly easy with the the right tools, i think the good old house brick would be just as effective but a tad nosier on dg glass

Of course, but very few locksmiths moonlight as burglars. Not sure why, now I think about

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[lifes2short]

Of course, but very few locksmiths moonlight as burglars. Not sure why, now I think about

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but worryingly readily available to any tom dick or burglar, even seen battery driven ones available

Unlocking Strong Lock Repair Tool Door Lock Opener Bumps Tool Door Opener Kit | eBay

It is equipped with 4 open blades and a tension wrench. 1 Tension Wrench. There is a powerful spring that makes it easy to open the pin roller and disc lock. 1 Lock Repair Tool. If you do not receive our reply within 48 hours, pls.

www.ebay.co.uk

please note midlifecrisis no need for violence required to get the cruds keys just get one of the above

 

[Gazcw]

Get yourself a 'Ring'Camera system or similar. You can buy a whole system for around £800 which is probably a similar price to a decent safe. The external cameras can also come with spot lights and sirens for a bit more money. All linked to your smart phone and recorded on a cloud server.

Is it just me that telling someone to buy a ring camera is just wrong?

 

[CatmanV2]

but worryingly readily available to any tom dick or burglar, even seen battery driven ones available

Unlocking Strong Lock Repair Tool Door Lock Opener Bumps Tool Door Opener Kit | eBay

It is equipped with 4 open blades and a tension wrench. 1 Tension Wrench. There is a powerful spring that makes it easy to open the pin roller and disc lock. 1 Lock Repair Tool. If you do not receive our reply within 48 hours, pls.

www.ebay.co.uk

please note midlifecrisis no need for violence required to get the cruds keys just get one of the above

They're really not as effective as you might think.....


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