....the decision to leave/remain should have never been left to the commoner.
I have not heard an argument from a leaver yet ( this thread excepted) that wasnt based on phallacy, prejudice or ignorance.
We have , IMO, all been sold a puppy ! It wasnt big or clever. It was bald faced BS for my money.
Tha doesnt mean there arent arguments for leaving the EU. Over-reaching governance may be one of them. It is out weighed by the advantages though somehow. We are headlong into a situation whereby we have fewer choices & less freedom. We will be turning our backs on any hope of influencing our European neighbours and yet electing to live under their shadow !
As an Arboriculturalist ( trees for you leavers !!

JOKE) I can tell you that the conservation, habitat and wildlife regs we deploy here ; even the treework standards. All would be in the dark ages today, and our landscape a very different place without the adoption of the european directives... What gets me is that these are things most normal people can surely see are desirable..clean rivers, beaches ? Food safety standards and hygiene..? No we dont have to throw out the baby with the bathwater- but as this was presented as the "over reaching" politics of a superstate, I find I have no reason to object except on an idealogical level...
Someone needs to sell me the positives- because I cant see any.
I always knew we wouldnt get a second bite at this particular apple. We have "Broke-it"...just dont expect me to buy into the narrative of why we did it. And that means I have to summon my best tolerance, or switch off from the debate too...
Its like God- I dont ! Move along please, nothing to see here....
