Brexit Deal

[philw696]

A politician on the other hand....

Full of Sh1t which ever side you are on.

 

[Wattie]

Members of the House,
Remaintown moan constantly against the closeness of the 52-48% referendum result.

SMDRP members therefore note the forced push through of legislation and the resulting 313-312 defeat in the HOC against the Cooper (betray the people vote bill)

Can we;

1. Ignore this result as it’s even closer
2. conduct another “just checking” vote to see if anyone has reconsidered as it’s ok to change your mind apparantly.....in time.
3. Perhaps organiser a “conker” battle to decide the Final result. Given that leavers appear to have far bigger nuts than remainers this may not be a suitable compromise though.

Getting wet, I’ll give way.

 

[GeoffCapes]

Nah I think it’ll be alright..Jasst don’t lose any sleep over it, we are a civilised bunch. Not all Brexiteers are unreasonable, some of the most reasonable people I know voted for it. If you believe it was the ‘older generation’ that voted leave then I can’t imagine a bunch of geriatrics and retired people with Zimmer frames causing too much of a riot (tongue firmly in cheek).

I’ve been closely watching and listening the words, language and rhetoric now being used by some in the ERG..they are now just starting to use words and phrases that are passive aggressive and that appeal to the extremes, which also tries to legitimise and embolden the far right to garner their support, create divisions within MP’s with “fear of rioting” or “if the will/ vote isn’t respected”etc, etc. Basically a fear tactic to pressure people/ MP’s.

With that I’m not in the least bit worried about because, since when did her majesty’s government pander to extremism or for them to dictate the policy of our country. We are not a dictatorship nor 1940’s Nazi Germany. We are a boisterous multicultural and multifaceted nation simply exercising our democracy and testing it’s limits. People can and do change their mind.

You forget Tommy Robinson’s mob are ardent Brexiters.
They have thousands of followers. Add those who just want to cause trouble and you never know what might happen.

 

[Wattie]

Members,
Germany, Europes strongest economy's "no deal" preparation is going fabulously isnt it Mr Juncker, Mr Tusk and Mr Barnier.

"Germany again confirmed just how bad the manufacturing recession at the heart of the Eurozone is, when it reported that Industrial orders fell by the biggest margin sequentially in more than two years in February, slumping 4.2%, badly missing consensus expectations of a 0.3% rebound, and worse than last monght's -2.1% drop, highlighting the extent of the slowdown amid ongoing global trade disputes. On an annual basis, the collapse was almost unprecedented, with the 8.2% drop matching the worst since the global financial crisis".

German manufacturing implosion sends Europe stocks lower

A significant miss in German industrial orders interrupted the calm in European markets, ending a four-day winning streak.

www.marketwatch.com

Fire up the printing presses Mr Draghi!!

Good to know that our negotiating position is now even stronger as Mp's will surely anaylse the data.

Ill give way

 

[Wattie]

You forget Tommy Robinson’s mob are ardent Brexiters.
They have thousands of followers. Add those who just want to cause trouble and you never know what might happen.

Mere amateurs compared with this bunch Geoff,

 

[Wanderer]

Mere amateurs compared with this bunch Geoff,
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Isn't that just Kurosawa's Seven Samurai? Even so there a German and Russian in the pic.....

 

[MaserCoupe]

You forget Tommy Robinson’s mob are ardent Brexiters.
They have thousands of followers. Add those who just want to cause trouble and you never know what might happen.

Yeah but moderate Brexiteers don’t want the association with those hate mongers, who’ll never be happy no matter what, it makes for negative visuals and they are a one trick pony with no political credibility. So any moderate Brexiteers would have to distance themselves (to gain any credibility and support) like Farage did with UKIP when they went hard core.

 

[allandwf]

Surely we will just clear the lot of them come next General Election anyway?

 

[Wattie]

Members of the house,

Uri-mainer Geller,

Psychic Uri Geller claims his powers caused the Commons flood to stop Brexit

SPOON bender Uri Geller claimed that the flooding in the House of Commons was all due to him twisting the pipes to stop Brexit. The wacky illusionist had previously threatened to use his psychic po…

www.thesun.co.uk

This seems like a good opportiunity to try a little Psychic experiment of my own..
Can any of you pick up what I think of Uri-mainer Geller?
Channelling now

Ill give way

 

[midlifecrisis]

How about the towns that had thousands of unskilled workers turn up from Eastern Europe competing with the local unskilled workers in the early 2000's and undercutting them? Making sure the hourly rate was the bare minimum.
Being in the EU might be an advantage to some people but FOM had a negative impact on a lot of poor communities.

Well if some bloke with no connections, no skills, hardly speaks English steals your job because you didn't give a hoot about it and were lazy and unproductive. What's that say about you.

 

[Nibby]

Well if some bloke with no connections, no skills, hardly speaks English steals your job because you didn't give a hoot about it and were lazy and unproductive. What's that say about you.

That's a very simplistic view of it all and that view was one of the reasons to Leave the the EU won the referendum, now a few high earners are going to feel the pinch because of leaving the EU we should all be concerned.
Double standards.

 

[GeoffCapes]

That's a very simplistic view of it all and that view was one of the reasons to Leave the the EU won the referendum, now a few high earners are going to feel the pinch because of leaving the EU we should all be concerned.
Double standards.

I think it’s the opposite. The high earners are the ones who will benefit from Brexit.
The poor will be the ones who feel it most.

 

[Wattie]

Well if some bloke with no connections, no skills, hardly speaks English steals your job because you didn't give a hoot about it and were lazy and unproductive. What's that say about you.

The member is just making things up now. Who said they didn’t give a hoot?
It was stated that they were undercut by those prepared to work for less!
You’ve just changed the script and written off people for being lazy!
Not necessarily the case.
I’ll give way

 

[rockits]

I don't think any cheap global labour or cheap products are ever a good thing. They tend to cause more problems than it attempts to achieve and the only winner is the consumer.

We tend to buy more sh1t we don't need, we tend to throw it away rather than repair it, there is more quantity than quality.

The planet and environment suffers as we over produce and use more raw materials to make more sh1t we don't need.

I think if we produced less, stuff that lasted, with prices increasing due to decent not cheap labour costs we would all be better off.

I don't agree with this modern propensity for growth. Sustainability is much more prudent IMHO. Why do we need to grow all the time? It makes no sense. We can't sustain ourselves now so how is growing going to help?

I have no problem working and working hard. I will do any job I'm asked to do. However when the numbers don't make sense I won't do it. All business is not always good business. I'm not going to enter a bunfight with someone who wants to do a job cheaper.

Often there is a unfair advantage to their cheap prices. Maybe they are paying no or little tax, or not paying staff or suppliers or going busy regularly. If something is too cheap it generally is for a reason.

There is no or little long term strategy just short term short sightedness that is really not achieving much or giving long term benefits. Quite to quantary as we are causing ourselves long term pain, suffering and problems due to poor decisions now.

When are we going to start thinking about tomorrow more than today? In fact by doing so it will quickly make today better as well.

 

[philw696]

Well said Dean.

 

[MaserCoupe]

Oh JRM what a silly tweet, what do you mean use our veto powers to become obstructive at in a long extension, I thought we had no power there?! What a divvy thing to say

 

[GeoffCapes]

Oh JRM what a silly tweet, what do you mean use our veto powers to become obstructive at in a long extension, I thought we had no power there?! What a divvy thing to say

We have veto to all this by staying in.
So why leave?

 

[Wattie]

Isn't that just Kurosawa's Seven Samurai? Even so there a German and Russian in the pic.....

Members, of course there is.
Leaving doesn’t mean we don’t talk to them again.
It just means we don’t take rules from the Eu...and of course aren’t so reliable on a Ponzi schemeEu economy.....Germany!
We can still trade in a mutually beneficial way.....which they need more than ever, have you seen the state of the Eurozone?
I’ll give way

 

[Wattie]

We have veto to all this by staying in.
So why leave?

The member of the.....**** this parliamentary ****, cos by leaving we don’t have to be party to all this Eu ****

 

[MaserCoupe]

We have veto to all this by staying in.
So why leave?

“Let’s take back control”