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Wattie

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Would the train headed to Brexitville please hold as the conductor doesn’t know which track to use and the ticket office due to a computer error, isn’t sure that it issued the correct one way tickets. So could the 17.4 on the platform to nowhereville please find another route as due to the unforeseen message signalling failure this train is going nowhere.:D
It would appear the representative for Remaintown acknowledges that the conductor (May) doesn't
know which way to go. Usually/normally the driver (E.U.) is in charge of direction in any case.
No surprise there then.
No May is better than a bad May.
 
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midlifecrisis

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We had austerity but all the time we were still bailing the EU out, WTF! the whole thing is a sham, this lot will not let brexit happen killing democracy in the process!
The EU will just keep letting this lot push the date back, why? Because all the while we will be ploughing even more money into a system that we are propping up, they (the EU) don’t want us to leave, we have not negotiated from a position of strength like we should have!
I hope the EU do grow a pair and put our miserable parliament out of their misery and force a no deal brexit!
And don’t get me started on Corbyn the scruffy c*nt! Bring on 12/04/19, bring on brexit!
Just my opinion BTW!
Incorrect facts in your opinion. The British government bailed out British banks hence the austerity. The ECB supported by Germany bailed out the PIGS. (Portugal Italy Greece Spain).
Or did you selectively forget?
 

Phil the Brit

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Does anyone here think this is an accurate statement.............

The EU was and is a Nazi plan for fascist, national socialist domination.

I don't claim it is my views, just curious.
 

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miket

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Incorrect facts in your opinion. The British government bailed out British banks hence the austerity. The ECB supported by Germany bailed out the PIGS. (Portugal Italy Greece Spain).
Or did you selectively forget?
I think you’re being too specific I wasn’t talking about bailing banks or financial institutes out at all, I was talking about our contributions into the EU pot, which we keep putting into whilst this circus at Westminster is ongoing.
 

midlifecrisis

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I think you’re being too specific I wasn’t talking about bailing banks or financial institutes out at all, I was talking about our contributions into the EU pot, which we keep putting into whilst this circus at Westminster is ongoing.
You're changing your argument now. Contributions aren't just one way. Many UK projects are funded by the EU. Here's a list that the Daily Fail would not want you to see and these are for UK transport only
 

midlifecrisis

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Oh and even if we left with a no deal brexit, do leavers expect that EU laws/industrial/safety regulations passed after we leave would still become de facto UK law. It already happens in Norway and they never joined...
 

Wattie

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“Can I thank the representative for Remaintown for allowing me the opportunity to point out the blindingly obvious as “we are going to thrive” and indeed even today “we hold all the cards!”

The Uk, submerged in its darkest hour, is STILL in an envious position in terms of the negotiations.
  1. We know that Europe does not negotiate with leavers, it is not in its interests to allow members to leave.
  2. We know the Eu is a Ponzi scheme completely supported by central bank manipulation and intervention. Most of its countries are either bust, going bust, or in recession. The project is failing economically and socially.- indeed unrest is everywhere. Europe will need to ensure that even under a no deal that its members trade as frictionlessly with us as possible to ensure minimal economic impact- we indeed want them to, its reciprocal!
  3. Their members need our €50million + and continued trading relationship. We need their trade.
  4. Our ace is “no deal” as the Eu economy will be severely hit and will struggle to withstand the shock, if it comes to it. No deal, no money, simple.This is the value of another Greek bailout to them, just a little before they expected to need another one!
  5. Last week the Eu announced no hard border in NI under no deal. This provides us with the Irish solution and renders Mays deal totally obsolete- the backstop is ridiculous and it was an act of incompetent naive negotiation for the UK to offer it against the legal advice. It was surrender and the acceptance of a trap.
“Members of this house, we have in card playing terms, a Full House.

Unfortunately we have the Fool of the House, a Joker, a Remainer who doesn’t believe in Brexit -playing our hand. It is her inability to play a single one of our cards (whilst ignoring the advice that her approach was wrong) that has led to the farce and the global ridicule of the UK.

We can thrive beyond this. The United States is there offering an immediate deal, there will be many others too, indeed we will also trade in a friendly and benefical way with our friends in Europe. We will do so however on our terms and with our democracy intact, regarded with envy by others wishing to leave the regime as well.

There is still time for us to play our Ace, but it will require someone with “belief” and man plums big enough to require a wheelbarrow (whilst walking) to do so. Someone with an understanding of the art of negotiation and poker.

Those equipped with dreadful dancing and a lady garden are quite clearly still learning “snap”.

Eu- “we want £39 Billion”
TM- Here’s my £39 Billion card, snap!”
TM- “I’ll give you a non unilateral backstop on Ni next”
Eu- “Oh, Thanks, here’s an imaginary card for that!”
TM- “Snap, 2 to me isn’t this jolly good fun!”

Friends, Britons, countrymen, No May is better than a bad May! , we can still turn this into our finest hour.

I am ready to serve”


Members of the House, ex BOE Governor Mervyn King,
Sounds familiar,....in all the other papers for those who ridicule The Sun.

Our incompetent MPs don't get it — Brexit is not about the economy, stupid
The Sun
INCOMPETENCE seems to have spread beyond the Government to Parliament as a whole — the fact that they simply cannot make a decision is extraordinary. Whether you believed in Remain or Leave, the only way to retain a negotiating position was to make sure, in a calm and quiet way, that the UK would take... Read the full story

No May is better than a Bad May!
I’ll give way.
 
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Wattie

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Wattie if the ERG were so sure that we would thrive and no deal wasn’t a problem then they would have unanimously voted against her. She dared the ERG on Friday and they blinked and pooped themselves because they have no plan for the country....I actually think the monocled mutineer JRM ran home to nanny for a change of knickers.:lol:
Interesting comments from the Remaintown member
I think it’s a disgrace what the ERG and certain lead Brexiteers did last Friday. Their reasoning was that they could foresee Brexit being reversed so Mays diabolical deal was acceptable rather than potential cancellation and no Brexit.
Herein lies the problem, we now have a farcical situation where MP’s are taking actions in their best interests, rather than the interests of the country.

You saw the same reaction in the press where Brexiteers who didn’t vote for Mays deal were blocking Brexit and getting slated for it.
These were the same papers who described Mays deal as ridiculous, a trap, diabolical etc on 2 prior occasions. The deal hadn’t changed but it was suddenly acceptable.

The deal should be rejected by everyone because it is a piece of piffle, total poppycock- .detrimental to the UK and that should concern remainers and leavers.

I’ve said this before- I respect the DUP and others who will not support it due its shortcomings. They have maintained their principles and should be applauded for it.

Rather amusing (I had a little chuckle) that you are suggesting certain people had no plan for the country. May, it is widely acknowledged certainly did not. :worried1:

No May is better than a bad May.
I’ll give way...
 
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allandwf

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Oh and even if we left with a no deal brexit, do leavers expect that EU laws/industrial/safety regulations passed after we leave would still become de facto UK law. It already happens in Norway and they never joined...
Oh and even if we left with a no deal brexit, do THE MAJORITY expect that EU laws/industrial/safety regulations passed after we leave would still become de facto UK law. It already happens in Norway and they never joined... ;)
 

midlifecrisis

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Oh and even if we left with a no deal brexit, do THE MAJORITY expect that EU laws/industrial/safety regulations passed after we leave would still become de facto UK law. It already happens in Norway and they never joined... ;)
Of 2016...Three years ago. Thankfully opinions of the public change otherwise we'd still have a Whig government
 

empzb

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Interesting comments from the Remaintown member
I think it’s a disgrace what the ERG and certain lead Brexiteers did last Friday. Their reasoning was that they could foresee Brexit being reversed so Mays diabolical deal was acceptable rather than potential cancellation and no Brexit.
Herein lies the problem, we now have a farcical situation where MP’s are taking actions in their best interests, rather than the interests of the country.

You saw the same reaction in the press where Brexiteers who didn’t vote for Mays deal were blocking Brexit and getting slated for it.
These were the same papers who described Mays deal as ridiculous, a trap, diabolical etc on 2 prior occasions. The deal hadn’t changed but it was suddenly acceptable.

The deal should be rejected by everyone because it is a piece of piffle, total poppycock- .detrimental to the UK and that should concern remainers and leavers.

I’ve said this before- I respect the DUP and others who will not support it due its shortcomings. They have maintained their principles and should be applauded for it.

Rather amusing (I had a little chuckle) that you are suggesting certain people had no plan for the country. May, it is widely acknowledged certainly did not. :worried1:

No May is better than a bad May.
I’ll give way...

Wattie. You didn't answer my earlier question whether May's deal is us leaving the EU which was the question on the referendum paper. :)
 

Wattie

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Wattie. You didn't answer my earlier question whether May's deal is us leaving the EU which was the question on the referendum paper. :)
The deluded Remaintown member must have missed my answer.
It’s not leaving the Eu and if you believe it is you are mistaken.
No one voted to allow Europe to vote on whether we leave.
That was for us to decide, solely.
I’ll give way.
 

empzb

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The deluded Remaintown member must have missed my answer.
It’s not leaving the Eu and if you believe it is you are mistaken.
No one voted to allow Europe to vote on whether we leave.
That was for us to decide, solely.
I’ll give way.

We'll agree to disagree. :)