Balboni detailed - Lots of pics

Emtee

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They are playing a risky game Miles; I hope they have good insurance. The good ones will have a paint thicknesser (electronic tool) and know what they can work with. I would never have done this on a customers car just on demo panels on a show stand.

The fear of a polishing machine is that it will even polish the colour coat, it just would go dull after a few weeks; would this be too late to claim?

Clear coat should be the thickest layer but typically a full machine polish will remove up to 20 um during a paint correction!

Thanks for the wisdom Newton. So without careful use of a paint thickness gauge, a car that's been corrected a number of times really could be in danger of breaking the clear coat and potentially revealing previous 'show-off' seams?
 

2b1ask1

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In a nutshell Miles = I'm firmly in the don't risk it camp.... 4 years trainning people to detail and working on some of the world's most valuable motors I never felt the need to show off in this way! I don't want to upset anyone so I'm not going to get to sucked into a debate as it was a different lifetime for me enjoyable but well behind me now...
 

Emtee

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In a nutshell Miles = I'm firmly in the don't risk it camp.... 4 years trainning people to detail and working on some of the world's most valuable motors I never felt the need to show off in this way! I don't want to upset anyone so I'm not going to get to sucked into a debate as it was a different lifetime for me enjoyable but well behind me now...

No, that's fair enough Newton. Thanks for your thoughts.
 

dem maser

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I have a drive now newton, i told you ages ago that one day i will spend all day treating mine so if you fancy a day of it let me know....
 

Woody

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What amazes me about these details is how poor they make the car look beforehand. I'd have thought the neutral observer would think the car looked great before....so afterwards, it must look un-real. Literally.
 

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Mine was in a pretty bad state, from the look of it I'd say it had only ever been washed by eastern Europeans using a grit filled sponge.

When I originally saw it in the showroom the lighting was such that I didn't notice all the swirls, plus it had been polished giving it a shine that also masked the swirls in the showroom.
Once it was sat on my drive the doors looked terrible, possibly because they're so flat where as curved door may not show such a large area in one go.

Now it looks superb... But is that largely because I know what it's had done?
My parents saw it for the first time yesterday and they were blown away by how it looks, but I don't think they're anymore blown away than what they would have been if they saw it before the detailing.

Either way, I know what it was like before and what it's like now and I'm very pleased.
My mentality is that I don't expect anyone to say "Wow, that's shiny" I'm satisfied if they simply can't find fault with it.

(A lesson I learned as a youngster on an NCO's cardre; don't expect the RSM to say well done, just be grateful he can't find fault and moves on)
 

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Agreed Dan, the other issues it that since its been detailed I have changed the way I wash the car. I have had to bin my beloved aqua blade and now only use specialist drying towels.

Also have been snow foaming, rinsing and only washing in a linear direction, not in a swirl, a bit excessive but worth it.

Incidentally, I thought my flat black NERO car was unlaquered...not true, it is.
 

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Mine was in a pretty bad state, from the look of it I'd say it had only ever been washed by eastern Europeans using a grit filled sponge.

When I originally saw it in the showroom the lighting was such that I didn't notice all the swirls, plus it had been polished giving it a shine that also masked the swirls in the showroom.
Once it was sat on my drive the doors looked terrible, possibly because they're so flat where as curved door may not show such a large area in one go.

Now it looks superb... But is that largely because I know what it's had done?
My parents saw it for the first time yesterday and they were blown away by how it looks, but I don't think they're anymore blown away than what they would have been if they saw it before the detailing.

Either way, I know what it was like before and what it's like now and I'm very pleased.
My mentality is that I don't expect anyone to say "Wow, that's shiny" I'm satisfied if they simply can't find fault with it.

(A lesson I learned as a youngster on an NCO's cardre; don't expect the RSM to say well done, just be grateful he can't find fault and moves on)


Dan

The car looks a million now...truely beautiful, don't you just hate the way dealers polish and fill on the showroom floor to hide all the spider marks etc,,,so you don't notice the amount of swirls.... its happened to me more than once...

One body shop I take all my work to told me long ago, just wash with water and don't use any pressure with the washing cloth, I even clean my cloths between every wash now, and use a upper and lower cloth across the body...

Try to get as much rubbish off just with the jet wash and nothing else... to keep it looking new...

Every time we put a cloth to the car you leave some kind of swirl mark... and as said earlier you can't use a detailing gun all the time you simply run out of clear coat... or worse...

You can enjoy it all summer now... Ozzie..
 

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You are absolutely right Dan when you say it is more the case of people not being able to find fault....

I spent so long working on the minutiae of detail on the cars of the rich and famous and real petrol heads that I find I am not satisfied with anything I now achieve on my own, I can spot a swirl from 100m away, a panel shut out of ballance and a missing dust cap. Mine when I got it had been parked on an industrial estate and probably put through car washes for most of it's days, it is quite shocking. One day I will have the funds to get everything sorted on it to my standards. In the meantime however I'm resisting my OCD tendencies to want to 'detail' it every time I clean it!
 

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This is a photo of Matt's car a couple weeks after being detailed taken today at Beaulieu...not a bad advert... Granted it could have done with another wash but that's country roads for you but the surface is still looking good.
 

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This is a photo of Matt's car a couple weeks after being detailed taken today at Beaulieu...not a bad advert... Granted it could have done with another wash but that's country roads for you but the surface is still looking good.

Cough Cough thought you said you were washing it Matt lol
 

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Cough Cough thought you said you were washing it Matt lol

I did on the Saturday then in the garage under its cover.

I then took it out and made it from Chichester to Lyndhurst in 33 mins (you do the maths) then had to endure the drive down to Beaulieu on a dusty road with bikes, horses, cows and some arm blokes dragging a cannon, I kid you not.

Now usually I would have taken a rag and quick detailer to her before presentation, but after your advice I only rinse, snow foam, rinse before rubbing the paintwork.