Are you worried yet.

[D Walker]

Pinkies crossed for you Dave , dont put money before health and personal safety , this aint a dress rehearsal for another life , we only get one crack at it to make the most of it

Yeah I know. I’m just not very good at doing nothing. I’m very bad at being lazy. I’m cutting through the jobs at home too quick. For once it’s the weathers fault. Lol.

 

[Wack61]

I can see how they worked that out , the guy on the left is worth 3 of the guys on the right

 

[Silvercat]

Made me laugh...

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[Silvercat]

Seems to me we have fashioned our NHS with echelons of mediocracy whose skills are tuned to deflect inadequacies by the latest sound bites and buzz words , all designed to make the plebs feel subordinate and inferior , well i have news for them , it didnt work in the 80's with board room geek speak and it hasnt worked now , like the civil servants disrupting Brexit , and the BBC smug you cant touch us ( syndome) there time has come , so exciting times ahead , I for one will not be sorry to see a few heads roll ,

Classic civil service....I came across this often working with the MoD.

 

[Wattie]

Qantas pilot and Sydney to Hobart yacht skipper tests positive to coronavirus for a second time - after spending a month in quarantine

Some of you guys are already on to Pulse oximeters I believe. This article explains a doctors observations and how they may be benficial.

Opinion | The Infection That’s Silently Killing Coronavirus Patients (Published 2020)

This is what I learned during 10 days of treating Covid pneumonia at Bellevue Hospital.

www.nytimes.com

Seems prudent to purchase 1 as an early detection device.

 

[lozcb]

Qantas pilot and Sydney to Hobart yacht skipper tests positive to coronavirus for a second time - after spending a month in quarantine

Some of you guys are already on to Pulse oximeters I believe. This article explains a doctors observations and how they may be benficial.

Opinion | The Infection That’s Silently Killing Coronavirus Patients (Published 2020)

This is what I learned during 10 days of treating Covid pneumonia at Bellevue Hospital.

www.nytimes.com

Seems prudent to purchase 1 as an early detection device.

The fear is Wattie, for the first time in many years one has to seriously question the standard of the equipment coming out of China at this time ,so although it' probably won't do any harm purchasing one ,I recommend if it's possible to buy one not made in china ....if there is such an item

 

[nigw]

Seems to me we have fashioned our NHS with echelons of mediocracy whose skills are tuned to deflect inadequacies by the latest sound bites and buzz words , all designed to make the plebs feel subordinate and inferior , well i have news for them , it didnt work in the 80's with board room geek speak and it hasnt worked now , like the civil servants disrupting Brexit , and the BBC smug you cant touch us ( syndome) there time has come , so exciting times ahead , I for one will not be sorry to see a few heads roll ,

The NHS isn’t designed or funded to be “excellent” - it’s designed to perform a function. If all aspects were excellent, by definition it becomes average. However, this doesn’t mean it’s mediocre. It’s really let down for three reasons in my view - it’s a political tool subject to short term political strategy, it’s become highly inefficient and wasteful... bloated and admin-heavy, and it’s publicly beyond reproach or challenge. I know a lot of people in the NHS at various levels and they are all committed and care about what they’re doing, but are let down by the system itself.

Another aspect I find an interesting concept is that the NHS is essentially parasitic - it benefits massively from medical advances made by health systems it (and the public) love to deride. The American system is awful and unjust, but it leads the world in medical funding and progress. Many other healthcare systems then benefit from this R&D.

It’s right that the NHS staff get plaudits, but based on people I know on the frontline some of the headlines at the moment are disingenuous at best, lies at worst. Journalists haven’t become moral public service broadcasters overnight - they all want an angle/story. I try to read a range of newspapers to reduce my confirmation bias, but increasingly struggle with the Guardian in particular - they try to claim the broadsheet high ground, but they’re tabloid standard and regularly misrepresent facts.

lol, rant over!

 

[lozcb]

The NHS isn’t designed or funded to be “excellent” - it’s designed to perform a function. If all aspects were excellent, by definition it becomes average. However, this doesn’t mean it’s mediocre. It’s really let down for three reasons in my view - it’s a political tool subject to short term political strategy, it’s become highly inefficient and wasteful... bloated and admin-heavy, and it’s publicly beyond reproach or challenge. I know a lot of people in the NHS at various levels and they are all committed and care about what they’re doing, but are let down by the system itself.

Another aspect I find an interesting concept is that the NHS is essentially parasitic - it benefits massively from medical advances made by health systems it (and the public) love to deride. The American system is awful and unjust, but it leads the world in medical funding and progress. Many other healthcare systems then benefit from this R&D.

It’s right that the NHS staff get plaudits, but based on people I know on the frontline some of the headlines at the moment are disingenuous at best, lies at worst. Journalists haven’t become moral public service broadcasters overnight - they all want an angle/story. I try to read a range of newspapers to reduce my confirmation bias, but increasingly struggle with the Guardian in particular - they try to claim the broadsheet high ground, but they’re tabloid standard and regularly misrepresent facts.

lol, rant over!

Nige if I ever get into No10 , you can be my Dominic Cummings ok

 

[Oishi]

Made me laugh...

Seems prudent to purchase 1 as an early detection device.

And all the pages are blank.....
Wattie, I got mine several weeks ago, posted how we are using it, as cheap as they are I recommend one. Yes Loz, the d@mn thing was made in china.
We keep a log of readouts 2x per day, looking for a drop in lung function, as an indicator of infection. Pulse, BP, Temp, Oxy Sat. but we haven't a good way of measuring resperation.

 

[Silvercat]

 

[rockits]

Qantas pilot and Sydney to Hobart yacht skipper tests positive to coronavirus for a second time - after spending a month in quarantine

Some of you guys are already on to Pulse oximeters I believe. This article explains a doctors observations and how they may be benficial.

Opinion | The Infection That’s Silently Killing Coronavirus Patients (Published 2020)

This is what I learned during 10 days of treating Covid pneumonia at Bellevue Hospital.

www.nytimes.com

Seems prudent to purchase 1 as an early detection device.

Funny you should say that as just ordered one yesterday. After a little research I went for this one:
Beurer PO 80 Pulse Oximeter

Seems decent enough from a good brand and I bought from a decent looking UK medicare supplier.

 

[rockits]

Made in Germany btw

I presume and hope!

 

[BennyD]

I’m really betting into this lock-down now and life has changed for the better. When it’s over, I’m going to start a petition for a month of lock-down every year to get all those little jobs done, being able to drink every day, get up late, no pressure- deadlines, quiet roads, nobody in town etc,etc,etc. I’m loving it!

 

[lozcb]

I’m really betting into this lock-down now and life has changed for the better. When it’s over, I’m going to start a petition for a month of lock-down every year to get all those little jobs done, being able to drink every day, get up late, no pressure- deadlines, quiet roads, nobody in town etc,etc,etc. I’m loving it!

You be greta's newest latest friend

 

[Wack61]

Funny you should say that as just ordered one yesterday. After a little research I went for this one:
Beurer PO 80 Pulse Oximeter

Seems decent enough from a good brand and I bought from a decent looking UK medicare supplier.

Just read this which I agree with , these devices will lead to more strain on the NHS when in the hands of people that have no idea how to turn subtitles off on the TV

 

[Saigon]

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Chemically speaking, alcohol is in fact a solution.

 

[rockits]

Just read this which I agree with , these devices will lead to more strain on the NHS when in the hands of people that have no idea how to turn subtitles off on the TV

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Not really from my side though. I do like I always do. Tend to research, learn and fend for my myself. I was just interested in the process and the device. I used to get bronchitis as a kid and have always a naturally low aerobic capacity. Never been diagnosed with any issues but not 100% convinced my respiratory system is always 100% regardless of CV.

I can see why this comment was made but maybe some remote home diagnosis via various means might actually reduce NHS burdens. We have proven face to face physical diagnosis at a doctor surgery or hospital is not always needed.

 

[BennyD]

You be greta's newest latest friend

Steady fella; I'm not tearing about with nowhere to go quite yet! But when I can, I will and I be back to laying a carbon trail that can be seen from space.

 

[lozcb]

Steady fella; I'm not tearing about with nowhere to go quite yet! But when I can, I will and I be back to laying a carbon trail that can be seen from space.

I'd say guaranteed, If there's one person that will be back to his normal soon as ...............it will be you mate

 

[Saigon]

I’m really betting into this lock-down now and life has changed for the better. When it’s over, I’m going to start a petition for a month of lock-down every year to get all those little jobs done, being able to drink every day, get up late, no pressure- deadlines, quiet roads, nobody in town etc,etc,etc. I’m loving it!

Re the above:- Changed for the better ? I don’t think so, how has life changed for the better, a lot of people and their relatives (18,00 plus) would disagree.
You could always drink every day, if that was your personal choice, nothing changed there has it.
No pressure ? tell that to those and their families who have no choice but go out to work and face the consequences.
Nobody in town, hopefully that’s true, they are being responsible.
Quiet roads, agreed, but no where to go. Have I missed anything.
Myself and mine, like many others are trying to make the best of it as much as we can but I disagree with all of your statements above, sorry! I just had to say so.