Alfa 33 Rebuild

dickyb

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Finally some progress. The owner of the bodyshop is now the proud owner of a CCJ.

In the end he declined to take the opportunity to defend himself in court despite his initial adamance that everything was everyone else's fault. His original defence statement was very aggressive and defamatory but he failed to produce the evidence he claimed to have, and was obviously not prepared to stand up in front of a judge and spout the same bull ****. If you look at the photos on page 13 I think it would have been very difficult to have come up with a convincing defence against the appalling standard of work carried out. In the interim period he has now deleted his company facebook account and has removed his company website, these do not appear to be the actions of an innocent man who has nothing to hide.

As far as starting again on the 33 goes, I haven't made much progress. Unfortunately I have tried a number of bodyshops and no-one seems interested in taking it on, so Retropower are my only option at the moment. I'll have to see how things go in actually recovering any money from the other ******* before any further progress can be made, this can be a long and difficult process particularly when someone seems to have actively gone into hiding.
 
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zagatoes30

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Do you have concerns about Retropower? I looked at one of their Opel Ascona 400s and it did look stunning in the flesh and the evidence they had of the work completed was superb.
 

dickyb

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Do you have concerns about Retropower? I looked at one of their Opel Ascona 400s and it did look stunning in the flesh and the evidence they had of the work completed was superb.
I have no concerns with Retropower in terms of the quality of work, they seem to be genuine enthusiasts who do an excellent job, my only concern is the price, they've quoted me £16800. Its a fair price I guess but its just difficult to swallow considering how much the previous repaint cost, and had they done the job properly without trying to stab me in the back I wouldn't have to be spending this money again. This would be the third bare shell repaint and the car has covered only 250 miles since the first one!
 
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zagatoes30

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Serious money but if they do it properly at least you know you will have one of the best there is, I know it's only a 33 but it's your 33 and will be with you for a long time - hopefully
 

dickyb

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yes, this was never going to be a sensible project from a financial point of view but sometimes you can't put a price on sentimentality. This was the first nice car I bought and I've owned it for 21 years, you hear lots of stories of people selling cars then regretting it and trying to buy another one, only to find prices have rocketed beyond their reach or that there are none left. Its unlikely the former would ever happen but there are probably less than 10 really nice 33s left in the UK so if I gave up on mine the likelihood of finding another nice one is very slim.
 
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Finally some progress. The owner of the bodyshop is now the proud owner of a CCJ.
I would get the ccj upgraded to high court and then send in the high court enforcement officers with a writ of possession, they will get the money or goods to sell at auction, don't bother with court baliffs who are toothless, that's assuming the company is still trading and not been dissolved if limited, good luck I think you certainly deserve some after what you've gone through
 

dickyb

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yep, thanks for the advice, unfortunately I'm all too familiar with the small claims process, this is the third time I've had to sue someone for screwing up this car. This guy is a sole trader so is also personally liable for any litigations against his business.
 
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My good news was short lived, after a little digging I've found out that he has ceased trading and that other customers have had to go and retrieve their partially restored cars. I suspect a lot of them will be seeking refunds for unfinished work and I would imagine my chances of recovering anything are now very slim.
 
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My good news was short lived, after a little digging I've found out that he has ceased trading and that other customers have had to go and retrieve their partially restored cars. I suspect a lot of them will be seeking refunds for unfinished work and I would imagine my chances of recovering anything are now very slim.
Is the company going down?

C
 

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Slippery B’stard Dicky, get the sheriffs on him before he disappears, you have the right to sell the debt on to an agent (you won’t get much for it but satisfaction) they can kick his (head) door in for you....
 
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If he's ceased trading its probably too late to do that and from past experience there is very little interest in buying ccjs from small companies or private individuals, the chances of recovering debts are too small.

I can't get much information about what has happened, the information I found just said the circumstances were "a bit sad" and the person who supplied it was unwilling to give any further details. I would speculate some kind of illness perhaps, and if that's the case you have the moral dilemma of pursuing someone in that situation. Its not my fault or my problem, it was his choice to screw up my car and stab me in the back, but do you continue to kick someone when they're down with little chance of achieving anything?
 
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If he's ceased trading its probably too late to do that and from past experience there is very little interest in buying ccjs from small companies or private individuals, the chances of recovering debts are too small.

I can't get much information about what has happened, the information I found just said the circumstances were "a bit sad" and the person who supplied it was unwilling to give any further details. I would speculate some kind of illness perhaps, and if that's the case you have the moral dilemma of pursuing someone in that situation. Its not my fault or my problem, it was his choice to screw up my car and stab me in the back, but do you continue to kick someone when they're down with little chance of achieving anything?

Crikey Dicky, Im a pretty tolerant sort of fellow, but I take my hat off to you... to be that gracious and grant any amount of sympathy to that chap is an act of extreme humanity.

Hopefully Karma pays you a visit and your luck turns around.
 
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I don't know the full story and am probably unlikely to find out if people aren't prepared to share information. Certain factors and things people have said, as well as the sudden closure of the business have made me draw a conclusion which may or may not be correct. I haven't named or shamed him publicly anywhere so in theory his business should have been unaffected by what happened between him and myself. Recent events may just be pure coincidence and perhaps things have been in decline for a while. If this guy is indeed affected by some kind of illness then there is perhaps little point in pursuing him, if he isn't earning a living there is little chance of recovering anything, and whilst retribution can be sweet, the consequences will always be on your conscience. Whether I'm right or wrong to pursue him, you also have to consider how it may affect others who have nothing to do with the situation.

I'll have to do some more digging to establish exactly what's going on but I may well just have to cut my losses and walk away however difficult that may be. Unfortunately if that becomes the case my future budget for rectification is going to be restricted so I'll need to investigate other options.
 
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