ULEZ is expanding

Felonious Crud

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It’s all about the money. There is absolutely no gain in air quality from any of these taxes. They take every opportunity to slow traffic in London and the more we sit going nowhere or moving at an inefficient snails pace the worse it gets.
Marginal, brother Newton, marginal. Your point stands. It’s bollox:

...compared to the overall decrease in London's air pollution levels, the ULEZ caused only small improvements in air quality in the weeks following its start date: an average reduction of less than 3 per cent for nitrogen dioxide concentrations, and insignificant effects on ozone and particulate matter.

 

Harry

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Jesus wasn’t aware of this, currently I can’t even go to my dentist which is 3 miles without paying for my daily drive. All my school friends have moved out of London now, so probably time to join them.
Am guessing they are so short of money there’s going to be more and more stealth taxes coming.
Maybe catch a bus or walk?!
 

keith

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Worth pointing out that this is only in consultation stage as yet.

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From experience that's just advanced notice of what's going to happen.
The green scum are on a roll, and nothing will stop them. As I've said before, for the extremists car ownership is a form of elitism, so only the 'Politburo' should be allowed the privilege of traveling by car, while the 'brothers and sisters' can walk, or if they earn the right, usually by being good party members and snitching on their neighbours, or by bribing an official, they can go on the waiting list for a bicycle!
I say 'scum' but that's too good a word, this is communism by the back door!!!
 

schell70

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Met some friends in Kew last week and they hadn't realised that the side of the road they had parked on was in ULEZ, neither did they know that their 2016 Disco with DPF wasn't compliant. I was in the GT so no issues, much to their annoyance - 'but yours is a V8 and old' !!
 

Gooner

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FWIW I do get the tube, bus, cycle and walk much more than I drive. I like that there is less pollution around town, although I think the ULEZ has only been a small part of that improvement.

What I can’t stand is the way that the deception and hypocrisy prevents any reasonable debate about the right way forward.

Even Kahn admits the ULEZ is a blunt instrument and some sort of road charging based on mileage would be better. But that wpild be time-consuming and expensive and TFL need money desperately partly due to Covid, partly due to financial mismanagement over many years like freezing fares, and partly to fund the pay settlement for drivers and other staff.

If you live in London you are probably aware that TFL are selling off station car parks to developers to build enormous blocks of flats (alongside all the other blocks being built). Meanwhile staff car parks at stations will remain.

My local (Conservative) council penalises ‘high polluting’ cars in our residents’ parking zone. It means I pay more for the Mas to be parked outside my house, doing about 2000 miles a year, than my neighbour who drives his BMW to work every day. Meanwhile the local schools have free car parks for the council-employed teaching staff (not the admin staff or TAs though).

One ray of light is that the last expansion of the scheme included a 3 year grace period for residents within the new area who already owned non-compliant cars. Maybe that will take me until end-2026 if the same principle is applied.
 

mowlas

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Confirmed that ULEZ charge will cover whole of London from August 2023.

The wider zone will be backed by a £110 million scrappage fund to help people switch to lower emission vehicles and what Mayor Khan said was the biggest expansion of bus routes in outer London’s history. Drivers in the outer boroughs will also be offered the option of a travelcard worth more than swapping a polluting vehicle for a cleaner one under the scrappage scheme.

Analysis by the RAC motoring group found that the move to make the ultra-low emission zone (Ulez) 18 times larger in October last year had generated an estimated £93.6 million of additional revenue from drivers.


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dickygrace

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ULEZ still affords you the opportunity to drive a V8 GT Sport, an MC20, a Trofeo etc so nothing to really report is there?
 

dickygrace

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Drove round the North Circular last weekend twice and noticed if you turn off it you’re straight into ULEZ.