drellis
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Is that a compliment for a frenchman?
What do members want from SportsMaserati
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Soenvious
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Like you I'm a member of another car forum which has very limited activity. The majority of contributions are from people asking for, or, offering advice.
The variety of content from a cross section of owners and 'lurkers' keep this forum alive and long may it continue.
There are certain sections that I never read but I appreciate it keeps interest in the site, enabling it to survive beyond a question and answer session.
Quality of someone who acts with reflection and moderation
allandwf
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I agree, the cross section of members, and knowledge not just car related, means you can find the answer to almost anything here. On the whole we can act as friends do with teasing and banter.
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Wednesday or tomorrow
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... and another as this has nearly dropped below the virtual page-fold.
So far I'm surprised no-one has mentioned law and order, sanitation, the aqueducts...
So far I'm surprised no-one has mentioned law and order, sanitation, the aqueducts...
Oneball
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Jayne Mansfield’s daughter is in Law and Order.
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I just looked her up on the Internet and have concluded that I quite like the idea of her being lawless and disorderly.
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I do have a lot of respect the for Matt/Mods for consulting again with members on this.
From my personal point of view, ONE of the things I most value about the forum is the sense of a community with a valuable diversity of experiences and opinions. To me the threads like politics, terrible jokes, energy crisis and rant threads (amongst many others) really enrich the experience of spending time here. These truly make it a community where you can learn something from outside of your own bubble.
IMHO, the elephant in the room is not the nature or subject matter, it is that posts exhibiting bad behaviour (i.e. where people get personal about members or launch ad-hominem attacks) appear to be rarely moderated or nipped in the bud. The bad behaviours then get reciprocated and eventually the whole thread gets frozen or deleted wholesale. When that happens, it makes me feel like I've been teated like a naughty kid in a school that practices collective punishment. I stopped posting after the last politically related thread got deleted wholesale.
I thank all those who have previously shown courage and called out such behaviour and who have reported such posts. At the end of the day it is the absolute right of Matt and Mods to manage this fine forum as they wish, but I don't just come here for tips on how to maintain my pride and joy.
From my personal point of view, ONE of the things I most value about the forum is the sense of a community with a valuable diversity of experiences and opinions. To me the threads like politics, terrible jokes, energy crisis and rant threads (amongst many others) really enrich the experience of spending time here. These truly make it a community where you can learn something from outside of your own bubble.
IMHO, the elephant in the room is not the nature or subject matter, it is that posts exhibiting bad behaviour (i.e. where people get personal about members or launch ad-hominem attacks) appear to be rarely moderated or nipped in the bud. The bad behaviours then get reciprocated and eventually the whole thread gets frozen or deleted wholesale. When that happens, it makes me feel like I've been teated like a naughty kid in a school that practices collective punishment. I stopped posting after the last politically related thread got deleted wholesale.
I thank all those who have previously shown courage and called out such behaviour and who have reported such posts. At the end of the day it is the absolute right of Matt and Mods to manage this fine forum as they wish, but I don't just come here for tips on how to maintain my pride and joy.
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How dare you. I'm not diverse and my opinions are not my own.
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The point I made at the beginning is that where we have topics where there will be strong views, then there will inevitably be strong disagreement. The mods are not omnipotent and an expectation that people with lives to live will always be there to nip the behaviour you describe in the bud is not likely to be fulfilled all of the time. This is why there isn’t a “everyone gets to say what they want but are always nice to each other” option.
Threads have been closed because the frank exchange of views gets out of hand and unpicking the result is time consuming and not always simple.
The point of this is to understand how that impacts on everyone’s experience, what peoples tolerance is for such behaviour and how it is viewed by those who might be disinclined to join in as a result. Turning the result into an actionable plan is the next challenge.
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Doctor Houx
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I’m a member of several car Marque forums, and all seem to end up with the political and rant type threads.
However, I find that the vitriol and personal abuse are far worse on most of them than on here, where in the main the content is friendly and light hearted.
The AMOC has gone into meltdown over a similar matter with the result being a stitched up AGM with a new management committee of old guard members who have a mistrust and dislike of social media wanting to overmoderate the forum and shut out such discussion.
As a result, many of the main contributors have set up an alternate forum outside the club, and the club one has become a far less interesting place with an absence of humour and debate. If I just want to know how to fix my sprocket on my lever it’s fine, but I can look that up on Google or YouTube.
However, I find that the vitriol and personal abuse are far worse on most of them than on here, where in the main the content is friendly and light hearted.
The AMOC has gone into meltdown over a similar matter with the result being a stitched up AGM with a new management committee of old guard members who have a mistrust and dislike of social media wanting to overmoderate the forum and shut out such discussion.
As a result, many of the main contributors have set up an alternate forum outside the club, and the club one has become a far less interesting place with an absence of humour and debate. If I just want to know how to fix my sprocket on my lever it’s fine, but I can look that up on Google or YouTube.
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Very interesting observations and one I echo.
A brief history for those who don’t remember.
SM was born as a breakaway group from the old forum that went down a similar track
Over moderation was that issue where anything off topic was removed and the members banbed
As that splinter group we do not wish to make that same mistake and it’s why we are consulting our members.
In the end I feel we will settle on a happy medium.
For what it's worth, I'm also a member of several other forums but always drift back to SM and the banter.
Quite frankly, membership of SM is almost essential in running and maintaining a Maserati due to the inadequate support of the marque.
I enjoy the huge range of opinions and backgrounds of contributors. It is a very broad church and quite unique. I really appreciate the opportunity to make my opinions known. Thanks.
Quite frankly, membership of SM is almost essential in running and maintaining a Maserati due to the inadequate support of the marque.
I enjoy the huge range of opinions and backgrounds of contributors. It is a very broad church and quite unique. I really appreciate the opportunity to make my opinions known. Thanks.
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