StickyPlastics
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I would say battery terminals loose. Nothing stacks up. Just a first check
I brought the car into a shop and now there are telling me the clutch is done and needs replacing.
I´m a bit confused because the clutch is working properly until the car is warm... how much does the clutch job cost in yur area for comparison?
Thank you.
Its a specialist.£3k
Is the shop a specialist or generic.
Did they give you the clutch wear reading? In all honesty, if the CPS is failing (and it certainly seems to be) then not changing the clutch while it is apart would be false economy.
Live data will be the tell tale.Did they give you the clutch wear reading? In all honesty, if the CPS is failing (and it certainly seems to be) then not changing the clutch while it is apart would be false economy.
I'll buy your old clutchits done is the feedback or reading. The values he spocked about is 16mm new and mine has 21mm. In his expierence the clutch is worn and thats why the sensor don‘t provide a correct reading
I'll buy your old clutch
Clutch plates were about £700, the costs are in labour and the extras like release bearing, spigot bearing, f1 position sensor and flywheel.
Gearbox, torque tube and bellhousing out and about £250 for the part so you may as well do the clutch.Changing the CPS is not an expensive job. I would start there.
Apparently they have gone up again.could you please post a link to the clutch plates? I just looked at Eurospares
Best to pull it apart then visual inspect the clutch friction and measure. Maybe it already had a clutch as 30km about the life of one anyway depending the way it has been driven. Readout the live data on clutch wear when cold to get an idea of wear. The position sensor is the most definitely the culprit here. Bit like a crankshaft position sensor they break down when warm meaning if the engine doesn't know where the crank is in relationship to the cams the engine will not spark. Similar scenario: if the TCU doesn't know where the clutch is; it will command the PCM to shut the engine off.Car has under 30tkm... that is also my thoughts to be honest. I don‘t get it why the car is working properly when it‘s cold.
After warming up there is no information avaiable from the f1 sensor - Code p1710
Changing the CPS is not an expensive job. I would start there.
Gearbox, torque tube and bellhousing out and about £250 for the part so you may as well do the clutch.
Best to pull it apart then visual inspect the clutch friction and measure. Maybe it already had a clutch as 30km about the life of one anyway depending the way it has been driven. Readout the live data on clutch wear when cold to get an idea of wear. The position sensor is the most definitely the culprit here. Bit like a crankshaft position sensor they break down when warm meaning if the engine doesn't know where the crank is in relationship to the cams the engine will not spark. Similar scenario: if the TCU doesn't know where the clutch is; it will command the PCM to shut the engine off.
You need the Maserati SD3 reader to set the clutch up, not cheap, dearer than the clutch job, much dearer....The garage mentioned the same... Changing the sensor is nearly the same as a clutch job. Thats why they recommend to change the clutch in general when you are in there. In my case the clutch should also be gone, so they recommend to do it all.
They quoted 5-7k... for a specialist which have it done several times I think it´s a little bit expensive.
If the CPS loosing connection when the car gets warm what happend there with the sensor? Heat should expand things an not shrink?! I´m still thinking it´s a connection fault somewhere. And I´m already thinking about getting the car back and measure the oldstyle by myself and maybe doing the clutch job in my garage during winter, if the quote will stay the same...
...I don‘t get it why the car is working properly when it‘s cold.
The effect of heat on a magnetic field is known - as others have said above you probably have a deteriorating sensor.If the CPS loosing connection when the car gets warm what happend there with the sensor?
I just paid 3000 for a Maserati main dealer to do the clutch, sensor etc. what surprised me was that the clutch needs balancing.The garage mentioned the same... Changing the sensor is nearly the same as a clutch job. Thats why they recommend to change the clutch in general when you are in there. In my case the clutch should also be gone, so they recommend to do it all.
They quoted 5-7k... for a specialist which have it done several times I think it´s a little bit expensive.
If the CPS loosing connection when the car gets warm what happend there with the sensor? Heat should expand things an not shrink?! I´m still thinking it´s a connection fault somewhere. And I´m already thinking about getting the car back and measure the oldstyle by myself and maybe doing the clutch job in my garage during winter, if the quote will stay the same...