Brexit Deal
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Wattie
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It’s denied it’s planning a parallel currency.....
Wack61
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A guy I know had a brother with a polish girlfriend , he rented a house in London for her.
I don't know the details but once she had an address and access to the NHS all her relatives were coming over from Poland and using her address for operations and NHS treatment.
It's over now because he eventually saw the light but not before she'd got a small fortune out of him, when you're in your 50s and single all that lycra can be very enticing but there's a price attached to Polish woman 20 years younger than you.
Wattie
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I believe it’s called “Polish Sausage Fatigue”
Wanderer
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A lot of my associates did that in Ireland, had 'an address' in NI for treatment and prescriptions. GP in Ireland is €65 a visit and prescriptions unsubsidised, apart from the upper limit of €144 a month. Last time I was back working there, first week got a flare up of my cellulitis, docs, anti-bios, wham €100.......
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An acquaintance of mine lived in Spain for many years. He and his wife utilised the NHS and dentists at every opportunity.
He now resides in UK having fallen ill permanently.
He was bare faced about it all in spite of the arguments we all got into
He now resides in UK having fallen ill permanently.
He was bare faced about it all in spite of the arguments we all got into
Wack61
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A guy was telling me his sister moved to south Africa in the 70s , a few years ago she got cancer so moved back to the UK for treatment , not been in the country for 40 years but still entitled to NHS treatment but if you want a copper to come round because somebody has burgled your house they haven't got the manpower
MarkMas
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Oh, no, not this 'What have the Romans done for us?' list again!
Firstly, a huge amount of this list includes things the UK could have just done for itself, and probably would have, such as 'smoke-free workplaces' and 'holiday entitlement'. If you are a left-winger, you might argue that the EU did things that the 'Tories' would not have, but that is basically saying "I prefer to be controlled by a left-wing foreign power, than my country's right-wing government", which apart from being undemocratic, dishonest and treason, is also just silly.
Another load of things like 'clean air' and 'nice beaches' could easily be done by UK initiatives and equitable agreements with neighbouring countries. It does not require (or justify) a regional or global government to deliver regional or global benefits.
Then there are some specific responses:
Structural Funding
- UK and Germany are main donors, with few UK recipients - perhaps a noble developmental donation, but not a net benefit.
Mobile Charges
- Not a product of lovely European collaboration, but an example of governmental interference in free markets, so politicians can give voters freebies.
Cheaper Air Travel
- Delivered through less government, not more. And air travel is regulated by IATA, not the EU.
Single Market Competition
- Little evidence for this really existing or bringing benefits to the UK.
Break Up Of Monopolies
- Little or no evidence for this
Patent & Copyright
- The European Patent Office is NOT a EU body, but is an excellent example of the effectiveness of cooperation amongst European nations without having to smoosh everyone into a European Union
Cutomes (sic) Paperwork
- Paperwork is supposedly minimised for EU trade, but EU regulation is increased; in my business I have to fill out more EU-paperwork than US-paperwork for equal amounts of work. (See also bloody GDPR.) And paperwork for global trade is increasingly streamlined.
Currency Exchanges
- Almost no impact (tiny changes in regulation with minimal effect). And, anyway, why shouldn't money traders be able to charge a %-based transaction fee?
Travel, Live and Work
- Freedom to travel was always there; freedom to live was easy in the past, if you had means to support yourself; freedom to work is both a benefit and a problem.
Young People funding
- Programmes like Erasmus do not need a central European Government to work.
Health Services
- Both a benefit and a problem.
EU-Funded Research
- Is not free money, 'given by the EU', but is regional-government-controlled pooling of taxpayer funding, for what should be global open non-governmental research activity.
EU Diplomacy
- Uncoordinated and weak, and not just because it is new, but because the EU members do not have a shared foreign policy agenda.
Policing
- Interpol is very satisfactory, and Europol is just regionalisation of an existing global effort.
European Military
- NATO works better (pre-Trump)
And finally, there is simply no evidence that the EU has contributed to generalised European peace in any way, other than flawed reasoning along the lines of "before EU, there was BUT after EU, there was peace", in which case we might as well give the credit to John and Yoko. Although it might be possible to claim that the prospect of EU funding has supported democratic initiatives in Eastern Europe (many of which are turning a bit sour, now that easy EU cash and the Euro has severely damaged their economies).
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Crossrail now there's a thing! Having lived and worked all my days in or around east London and in particular the Liverpool St. line, I regularly travel up to town on trains and the underground where carriages are heaving with people even at 10 at night and 6 in the morning, the Crossrail project is massively over due, for all the aggravation it will ease congestion slightly for the capital but realistically we get one extra carriage (yes count it just the one) on our trains! we do get to take a direct train from Romford to Heathrow though so I'll save roughly 20 minutes when I need to go there.
As far as the rest of the country not getting anything, you are getting smart motorways and they are a real success (not)!!!
As far as the rest of the country not getting anything, you are getting smart motorways and they are a real success (not)!!!
Wattie
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Yeah, that's hilarious.
I also like the "removal of 13 former dictatorships"
Yup all replaced by the Biggest One Of All!
Support for democracy.....across Europe, as long as it doesn't involve voting against it!Another rule change -http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-854_en.htm
President Juncker said: “From the very beginning, I wanted this Commission to be a political one. ........ of course you did, you just told everyone it wasn't.
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Wattie
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“Another load of things like 'clean air' and 'nice beaches' could easily be done by UK initiatives and equitable agreements with neighbouring countries”
Exactly MarkMas
Have u seen the amount of discarded rubber dinghy rubbish cluttering our beaches recently - all of Eu origin!
The French navy seems unwilling to stem the tide.
Needless to say SMDRP have protested to French authorities directly “Pot pourri pot pourri, Creme de la menthe mange tout!”
Exactly MarkMas
Have u seen the amount of discarded rubber dinghy rubbish cluttering our beaches recently - all of Eu origin!
The French navy seems unwilling to stem the tide.
Needless to say SMDRP have protested to French authorities directly “Pot pourri pot pourri, Creme de la menthe mange tout!”
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Wattie
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Pity Sky Uk didnt have the nuts to say this...
Few months old (Dec) but boy has she hit the nail on the head!
Honorary SMDRP status granted with immediate effect!
Few months old (Dec) but boy has she hit the nail on the head!
Honorary SMDRP status granted with immediate effect!
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If only she was leading our negotiations.
Oneball
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It’d take even longer.
I know she’s broadcasting to Australians but does
she
have
to
talk
at
half
speed?
doodlebug
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As my dear old Dad used to say, "You can always tell an Australian, but you can't tell them much"
GeoffCapes
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