jasst
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Brexit Deal
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What did leave mean.
End freedom of movement - check
End payments - check
End eu laws - check
End meps - check
Control of borders - backstop.
Ni voted remain so heck if you want to talk about will of people let's break up the kingdom. It's going that way anyway lol.
Again the problem is leave meant different things to different people, even the people that pushed for leave.
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Wattie if the ERG were so sure that we would thrive and no deal wasn’t a problem then they would have unanimously voted against her. She dared the ERG on Friday and they blinked and pooped themselves because they have no plan for the country....I actually think the monocled mutineer JRM ran home to nanny for a change of knickers.
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Leave meant leave the EU, just that. Anything else is supposition and open to debate, hence where we are now. Ireland clearly approaches referenda with a much more informative agenda.
If we'd done that we'd not be in this mess...
Compare the above with what we got..
It wasnt written on the side of a bus but just because the electorate weren't aware doesn't mean it wasnt an outcome. Reflects on us that's for sure that we didn't understand the complexities instead thinking we'd have the easiest trade deals with the EU and 350m a week.
As for would I accept it. Yup. At the moment were a divided country. Wed at least be United in the level of shitness that respected most of the result. But then I wouldn't have done most the things the PM has done like call a general election and put up red lines.
It was never going to be sunny uplands regardless of result.
Leave meant leave the EU, just that. Anything else is supposition and open to debate, hence where we are now. Ireland clearly approaches referenda with a much more informative agenda.
If we'd done that we'd not be in this mess...
Compare the above with what we got..
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Does May's deal mean we leave the EU?
Wanderer
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I think it does, but remain in a customs union until the Irish border issue is resolved. The only box-ticking permanent answer is the Norway model, which means leaving the EU (box ticked) but joining EFTA immediately after.
I think May's deal is ****. and the whole idea of leaving the EU shortsighted....
I'm with your thought process. Again, the problem is leaving EU so vague and the politicians on both sides talked so much **** no one really had an idea of what the real truth is.
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Had a tough weekend, very very depressed.
Spent most of It taking down the miles of bunting I’d organised for my little party over here and disarming the fireworks. Fortunately I’d gone mainly for sparklers due to budget constraints...so that only took 10 minutes.
Would like to thank all SMDRP members for the “telepathic” support I received from you all on 29th and indeed encouragement for me to campaign for PM status.
I undertake to carry out that task to the best of my ability and have already started my research. Gotta be honest, didn’t think there was much chance of it happening and was almost at the point of dispaiir when, I stumbled across this bloke.
Honestly it is astonishing what some people will vote for. His CV was appalling
Revolutionary which is basically an apprentice terrorist
Ex convict!!! A serial offender in fact, multiple arrests!! That’s the worst kind,- didn’t learn from from his previous mistakes (Some would say a rehabilitation disaster!)
Dangerous too! Had to be locked up on some island...kinda like that Alkaseltzer place in the US so he wasn’t near the public!
And yet, when he got out (probably escaped) against all the odds and with those qualifications- he became President.
WTF!
His African name “Mandela” translates directly into English as “Superior Man!”. You cannot say that nowadays and I for one would never say that to the women of the world- Barr one.
I am a bloody angel compared him.
My Mojo is fully restored. I will be conducting myself in accordance with HOC decorum from now on, armed with a slogan which I will repeat approximately 108 times in my quest for power.
Carry on.
Spent most of It taking down the miles of bunting I’d organised for my little party over here and disarming the fireworks. Fortunately I’d gone mainly for sparklers due to budget constraints...so that only took 10 minutes.
Would like to thank all SMDRP members for the “telepathic” support I received from you all on 29th and indeed encouragement for me to campaign for PM status.
I undertake to carry out that task to the best of my ability and have already started my research. Gotta be honest, didn’t think there was much chance of it happening and was almost at the point of dispaiir when, I stumbled across this bloke.
Honestly it is astonishing what some people will vote for. His CV was appalling
Revolutionary which is basically an apprentice terrorist
Ex convict!!! A serial offender in fact, multiple arrests!! That’s the worst kind,- didn’t learn from from his previous mistakes (Some would say a rehabilitation disaster!)
Dangerous too! Had to be locked up on some island...kinda like that Alkaseltzer place in the US so he wasn’t near the public!
And yet, when he got out (probably escaped) against all the odds and with those qualifications- he became President.
WTF!
His African name “Mandela” translates directly into English as “Superior Man!”. You cannot say that nowadays and I for one would never say that to the women of the world- Barr one.
I am a bloody angel compared him.
My Mojo is fully restored. I will be conducting myself in accordance with HOC decorum from now on, armed with a slogan which I will repeat approximately 108 times in my quest for power.
Carry on.
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Wattie
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“Can I thank the representative for Remaintown for allowing me the opportunity to point out the blindingly obvious as “we are going to thrive” and indeed even today “we hold all the cards!”
The Uk, submerged in its darkest hour, is STILL in an envious position in terms of the negotiations.
- We know that Europe does not negotiate with leavers, it is not in its interests to allow members to leave.
- We know the Eu is a Ponzi scheme completely supported by central bank manipulation and intervention. Most of its countries are either bust, going bust, or in recession. The project is failing economically and socially.- indeed unrest is everywhere. Europe will need to ensure that even under a no deal that its members trade as frictionlessly with us as possible to ensure minimal economic impact- we indeed want them to, its reciprocal!
- Their members need our €50million + and continued trading relationship. We need their trade.
- Our ace is “no deal” as the Eu economy will be severely hit and will struggle to withstand the shock, if it comes to it. No deal, no money, simple.This is the value of another Greek bailout to them, just a little before they expected to need another one!
- Last week the Eu announced no hard border in NI under no deal. This provides us with the Irish solution and renders Mays deal totally obsolete- the backstop is ridiculous and it was an act of incompetent naive negotiation for the UK to offer it against the legal advice. It was surrender and the acceptance of a trap.
Unfortunately we have the Fool of the House, a Joker, a Remainer who doesn’t believe in Brexit -playing our hand. It is her inability to play a single one of our cards (whilst ignoring the advice that her approach was wrong) that has led to the farce and the global ridicule of the UK.
We can thrive beyond this. The United States is there offering an immediate deal, there will be many others too, indeed we will also trade in a friendly and benefical way with our friends in Europe. We will do so however on our terms and with our democracy intact, regarded with envy by others wishing to leave the regime as well.
There is still time for us to play our Ace, but it will require someone with “belief” and man plums big enough to require a wheelbarrow (whilst walking) to do so. Someone with an understanding of the art of negotiation and poker.
Those equipped with dreadful dancing and a lady garden are quite clearly still learning “snap”.
Eu- “we want £39 Billion”
TM- Here’s my £39 Billion card, snap!”
TM- “I’ll give you a non unilateral backstop on Ni next”
Eu- “Oh, Thanks, here’s an imaginary card for that!”
TM- “Snap, 2 to me isn’t this jolly good fun!”
Friends, Britons, countrymen, No May is better than a bad May! , we can still turn this into our finest hour.
I am ready to serve”
MaserCoupe
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Nice Avatar Wattie, is that Pamela Anderson? And how many computer desks have you smashed in frustration that all things Brexit aren’t going well?
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Me n you both.
MaserCoupe
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Taxi! Hi there where to sir? Drive! Where? I don’t care just drive! Yeah but where? I don’t care Drive means drive!
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April fools a day early?
Wattie
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I would suggest the representative for Remaintown get himself a secretary, before questioning my PA.
I also note he doesn’t dispute points 1-5 whilst confusing me with Hillary Clinton in regards to smashing computers- as per a previous post.fake news.
No May is better than a bad May.
I’ll give.
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MaserCoupe
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Would the train headed to Brexitville please hold as the conductor doesn’t know which track to use and the ticket office due to a computer error, isn’t sure that it issued the correct one way tickets. So could the 17.4 on the platform to nowhereville please find another route as due to the unforeseen message signalling failure this train is going nowhere.