The Grand Tour..Amazon

casadalloro

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I see in the sunday times mag there will be an episode touring Europe in "bargain priced" maseratis...could be interesting depending what they mean by bargain....
 

safrane

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Ah.... I think one is a Zagota Spyder that James drives....after breaking his arm...If you look at the trailer for the services the seats look very bi-turbo esc
 

StuartW

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Call me old fashioned, but I think it's a royal pain in the **** that to watch everything you want now you need a TV license, a Sky subscription, Amazon Prime, Netflix, BT Sport ... Where will it stop!!!
And to us rural folks with steam powered broadband, you can forget most of them - life's too short to be told you're constantly buffering!
 
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Totally agree
TV generally is pish poor now
Have you noticed a decline in quality from BBC1?
It is all soaps or Great British something or other
Sky is a none starter for me while the Dirty Digger is in charge
I don't know what Netflix is and Amazon have muscled in too
We again have sacrificed quality for quantity and it is in all walks of life. More is not necessarily better
 

StuartW

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Totally agree
TV generally is pish poor now
Have you noticed a decline in quality from BBC1?
It is all soaps or Great British something or other
Sky is a none starter for me while the Dirty Digger is in charge
I don't know what Netflix is and Amazon have muscled in too
We again have sacrificed quality for quantity and it is in all walks of life. More is not necessarily better

Yep, it's all tosh - back to the wireless or singing around the Joanna - 'tis the way forward!
 

Contigo

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Books and more books for me, I've turned the tv off over summer and tend to read for a few hours of an evening, not only is it relaxing it really helps with insomnia!
 

conaero

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Books and more books for me, I've turned the tv off over summer and tend to read for a few hours of an evening, not only is it relaxing it really helps with insomnia!

It's a bit of shock you can read and write if I am honest Phil. I assays thought you dictated your forum posts to your kids?
 

NickP

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Having worked in media for around 10 years, I think you are all utterly wrong. TV has never been so good, the series available on Netflix, Amazon, Sky (Atlantic) is far superior to the garbage now on the BBC (mainly, there are exceptions). If you don't want to pay for Amazon/Sky/Netflix/Apple/NowTV you don't have to, you can wait for the box set or whatever. The fact that the BBC prosecute people who don't pay for a license fee, have a monopoly on news (most get their news from the website), have all the local radio stations, translate into all kinds of different languages etc and got rid of the cash cow (Top Gear) means I can not abide it. The sooner they lose the right to free money every year through taxation the better imo.


The trailer for GT on Amazon looks great, can't wait.
 

Corranga

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Having worked in media for around 10 years, I think you are all utterly wrong. TV has never been so good, the series available on Netflix, Amazon, Sky (Atlantic) is far superior to the garbage now on the BBC (mainly, there are exceptions). If you don't want to pay for Amazon/Sky/Netflix/Apple/NowTV you don't have to, you can wait for the box set or whatever. The fact that the BBC prosecute people who don't pay for a license fee, have a monopoly on news (most get their news from the website), have all the local radio stations, translate into all kinds of different languages etc and got rid of the cash cow (Top Gear) means I can not abide it. The sooner they lose the right to free money every year through taxation the better imo.


The trailer for GT on Amazon looks great, can't wait.

The BBC have the monopoly on making TV and radio that isn't hampered by adverts and can bulk social trends and . The monpolise news because they actually do it quite well. I'd rather watch (for example) BBC Breakfast than that Americanised rubbish on ITV, or Sky's News ticket syndrome. BBC provide programming that helps to maintain the historical cultures in these Isles, producing programs in Gaelic and Welsh, and many other things that would simply disappear.
As a parent of a 2 year old, I love that we can put CBeebies on and she can watch something educational, with a bit of diversity, that isn't all animated, or voiced by Americans, and isn't broken down by her pointing and screaming "I want that" for 25% of the time as they bombard and pollute her young, innocent and influential brain with adverts.

The day the BBC stop getting free money will be a sad one, and a day that this country would end up regretting.
 

bigbob

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The BBC have the monopoly on making TV and radio that isn't hampered by adverts and can bulk social trends and . The monpolise news because they actually do it quite well. I'd rather watch (for example) BBC Breakfast than that Americanised rubbish on ITV, or Sky's News ticket syndrome. BBC provide programming that helps to maintain the historical cultures in these Isles, producing programs in Gaelic and Welsh, and many other things that would simply disappear.
As a parent of a 2 year old, I love that we can put CBeebies on and she can watch something educational, with a bit of diversity, that isn't all animated, or voiced by Americans, and isn't broken down by her pointing and screaming "I want that" for 25% of the time as they bombard and pollute her young, innocent and influential brain with adverts.

The day the BBC stop getting free money will be a sad one, and a day that this country would end up regretting.

There is a lot of truth in this, however, the world is moving away from single pricing for products which bears no correlation to usage.

The BBC should slim down to what it does well in public interest broadcasting and accept that it cannot compete with the money that the new entrants are sinking into big programmes. The licence fee should be abolished and budget funded directly but at a fraction of the current level which abandoning expensive programming will allow.

The adverts on pay TV do not bother me as I rarely watch anything live and just FF through them. The only really benefit of this with regard to the BBC is in radio given that you cannot FF through the commercial station adverts - for example listening to Radio Tay is deeply irritating.
 

Corranga

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There is a lot of truth in this, however, the world is moving away from single pricing for products which bears no correlation to usage.

The BBC should slim down to what it does well in public interest broadcasting and accept that it cannot compete with the money that the new entrants are sinking into big programmes. The licence fee should be abolished and budget funded directly but at a fraction of the current level which abandoning expensive programming will allow.

The adverts on pay TV do not bother me as I rarely watch anything live and just FF through them. The only really benefit of this with regard to the BBC is in radio given that you cannot FF through the commercial station adverts

I almost completely agree. The BBC do have a great history of making some great programming, sure in recent years, from my perspective, it's virtually restricted to Sherlock and Top Gear (and perhaps Radio 2!), but still.. I do agree though that they should be pushed to prioritise the specialist programs and avoid the big budget stuff (like Wimbledon for example - unless it makes them money I guess).

Adverts wise, I agree for all but kids TV. A 2 year old is absolutely a captive audience, and I'd much rather mine was watching a show about the alphabet, animals etc. with decent diversity and some exposure to people with disabilities etc. than 5 minute reels of rubbish plastic tat for 50 quid.
My own TV viewing is made up of a combination of Sky box sets, recordings, NFL gamepass, Amazon Prime and Netflix.

for example listening to Radio Tay is deeply irritating.

That's the horrible dialect of the DJs, not the adverts though ;)

That said, I rarely listen to the radio, sometimes on my 20 minute commute. But since being a teenager, my music listening has been about cassettes, CDs, iPod / mp3, and is now streaming my own collection from from my own server or spotify.

Will be interesting to see what the 3 old Top Gear 'fools' make with Amazon. I just hope that the bargain priced Maserati episode, and the show in general isn't aimed at the average 8 year old and can all about bumping and wrecking the cars with stupid additions (though I strongly suspect it will be).
 

CatmanV2

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Having worked in media for around 10 years, I think you are all utterly wrong. TV has never been so good, the series available on Netflix, Amazon, Sky (Atlantic) is far superior to the garbage now on the BBC.

You see, here's where the dichotomy lies. Generally I simply do not like US dramas. The characters tend to be shallow, and the narrative arcs great, right up until the point where the series gets renewed, when they collapse into a confused mess. Of course I get this is something of a matter of taste, but the only think I watch with any degree of regularity is The Strain. Mostly due to having something on in the background.

For context I've tried
Generation Kill
The Walking Dead
The Strain
Under the Dome
The Man in the high castle
Mr Robot
Ripper Street
The Fall

Ripper street has gone down hill in the last series. The Fall is tempting. Red Dwarf XI is getting much better :)

Stuff on the BBC I like:
Life on Mars / Ashes to Ashes
Original Ripper Street
New Tricks
Waking the Dead
Silent Witness
Hustle
Red Dwarf

Thoroughly looking forward to Grand Tour :) but generally have to adopt the view that *most* TV is ****. BBC TV *in general* is less ****.

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