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Yes did it on the day and was fobbed off. They are not interested and you are wasting your breath!
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I just dialled the 01753 878732 number on my letter to ask if they could send me a copy of "the scheduled maintenance" section in the owner manual that refers to this as I can't seem to find it !
funnily enough: no-one answered the call and it went through to Paul Green's voicemail , so I left my number for a call back , why doesn't everyone else spare 2 minutes to join the party?
Keep him busy checking his voicemail if nothing else.
funnily enough: no-one answered the call and it went through to Paul Green's voicemail , so I left my number for a call back , why doesn't everyone else spare 2 minutes to join the party?
Keep him busy checking his voicemail if nothing else.
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Just called me back , a load of waffle and twaddle , after not properly being able to answer the questions regarding specific scheduled maintenance for these in the owner manual ( I don't think this exists - has anyone else located what they refer to ? ),
He made sure to point out that this was not a "Recall" .
I asked so if I send my car to a Maserati dealer for a check of the bushes and arms and I get an all clear , then a week later the arm cracks and fails do I get any cover ? . Oh no , that would just be a wear and tear situation and you would have to pay for repair !
Marevellous !
My Warranty only expired 12 years ago , I was thinking about the possibility of a goodwill gesture
He made sure to point out that this was not a "Recall" .
I asked so if I send my car to a Maserati dealer for a check of the bushes and arms and I get an all clear , then a week later the arm cracks and fails do I get any cover ? . Oh no , that would just be a wear and tear situation and you would have to pay for repair !
Marevellous !
My Warranty only expired 12 years ago , I was thinking about the possibility of a goodwill gesture
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As are 4200's with GS Seats- I am therefore totally ignorant of this potentially life threatening design fault ( sorry - meant mine and previous owners, and Maserati and Independant dealers servicing / Mot'ing lack of diligence) and will continue to drive it without inspecting ( as best I can ) before driving.
Oh the sheer bliss!!!
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Letter of Audi last week confirming that the A4 we have is affected by the emissions scandal. States they are working on a solution and will be in touch again to rectify the problem.
Letter from Maserati for the 4200 no sign of at all.
So let me get this straight Maserati can't manage to inform their 1500 or so customers of a potential life threatening issue in a reasonable amount of time But VW group can and are telling their 1.2 million car owners in the UK there is an issue within 2-3 weeks of the issue being raised.
Just goes to show the difference in mind set between VW group and what Maserati laughing call customer relations.
Letter from Maserati for the 4200 no sign of at all.
So let me get this straight Maserati can't manage to inform their 1500 or so customers of a potential life threatening issue in a reasonable amount of time But VW group can and are telling their 1.2 million car owners in the UK there is an issue within 2-3 weeks of the issue being raised.
Just goes to show the difference in mind set between VW group and what Maserati laughing call customer relations.
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It's not the difference of mindset it's the dimension of the scandal affecting ***.
I would hate to be their shareholder now as they will take quite a hit in the next few years.
Also, 60% of the 125000 residents of wolfsburg are employees of the *** group so they will also be looking at some cuts
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Visited a small fabrication shop that we use for business, and they on occasion make kit car chassis for a local Jag based replica. One of the fabricators, who is highly skilled, also makes parts for restoring race cars.
Anyway was discussing our wishbone issue, and he laughted at replacing a complete wishbone for a cracked one. Apparently cutting out the crack to a V, rewelding, then wrapping a piece of aluminium over and welding in place is the way to go. He then pulled from beneath his work bench a pair of wishbones from a race car that where freshly fabricated, and wrapped as a matter of course for strength. These were stainless steel ones.
Also splitting wishbones due to bush sleeve corrosion he had seen before.
I know this method of repair has been discussed before, and having now seen this wrapping method applied to a new wishbone for strength on a race car, I would seriously consider this repair myself on my car if I had a crack.
Problem of course today is the liability issue of the repair. Doing this for a race car is not the same as a road vehicle. Sigh.
Anyway was discussing our wishbone issue, and he laughted at replacing a complete wishbone for a cracked one. Apparently cutting out the crack to a V, rewelding, then wrapping a piece of aluminium over and welding in place is the way to go. He then pulled from beneath his work bench a pair of wishbones from a race car that where freshly fabricated, and wrapped as a matter of course for strength. These were stainless steel ones.
Also splitting wishbones due to bush sleeve corrosion he had seen before.
I know this method of repair has been discussed before, and having now seen this wrapping method applied to a new wishbone for strength on a race car, I would seriously consider this repair myself on my car if I had a crack.
Problem of course today is the liability issue of the repair. Doing this for a race car is not the same as a road vehicle. Sigh.
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Sounds fair enough to me. I would certainly consider a good engineered repair rather than being fleeced by Maserati for a lesser part.
Don't see why there would be any issues around liability though if you were fitting yourself. Only issues if it couldn't be done yourself & needed some on to do it for you I guess.
Don't see why there would be any issues around liability though if you were fitting yourself. Only issues if it couldn't be done yourself & needed some on to do it for you I guess.
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I visited a guy who remakes aluminium parts for vintage Aston Martins. Old cars, parts aren't available. If I look in a classic car mag, the back pages are usually filled with restorers who sometimes have to make custom bits. Also, what happens if like the old days you find a hole in the floor and then weld in a plate for the MOT. Are all these 'fixes' liable for litigation? Surely it's the same thing. What about using pattern parts? Is that also a no-no because they are not original parts?
I admit I don't know the law, but a weld is a weld isn't it? Just asking.
I admit I don't know the law, but a weld is a weld isn't it? Just asking.
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I think we are perhaps getting a bit paranoid about using non original parts here. Same with a "repair" to any part of the car be it by a firm or the individual.
Any firm making or carrying out any repairs will carry Public and Products Liability cover (or should!).
In event of negligence by them repairing or supplying parts any injury or damage to any third party will be covered by their policy.
In effect if a "repair" or non oem part is used and fails then your motor insurance policy will pay out to anyone injured or any damage caused and they , if they can establish negligence, will make a recovery from the Insurers of the company supplying the part or carrying out the repair.
If negligence cannot be proven your motor insurer is out of pocket.
If an individual did their own repair and it failed the situation is exactly the same.
The Insurer pays out and IF they could establish you were negligent technically they could make a recovery from you for their outlays.
However how many people on here are going to strip down and weld their own wishbone?
Cars are "repaired" all the time using non oem parts be it tyres, wiper blades, brake components etc.
If someone can either replace the part or repair the damage then there really is no issue.
Thanks to MAF we are now using replacement discs. Should any of them fail the manufacturer has insurance to cover this scenario. We are not getting steamed up about them.
Chill guys! ;-)
Any firm making or carrying out any repairs will carry Public and Products Liability cover (or should!).
In event of negligence by them repairing or supplying parts any injury or damage to any third party will be covered by their policy.
In effect if a "repair" or non oem part is used and fails then your motor insurance policy will pay out to anyone injured or any damage caused and they , if they can establish negligence, will make a recovery from the Insurers of the company supplying the part or carrying out the repair.
If negligence cannot be proven your motor insurer is out of pocket.
If an individual did their own repair and it failed the situation is exactly the same.
The Insurer pays out and IF they could establish you were negligent technically they could make a recovery from you for their outlays.
However how many people on here are going to strip down and weld their own wishbone?
Cars are "repaired" all the time using non oem parts be it tyres, wiper blades, brake components etc.
If someone can either replace the part or repair the damage then there really is no issue.
Thanks to MAF we are now using replacement discs. Should any of them fail the manufacturer has insurance to cover this scenario. We are not getting steamed up about them.
Chill guys! ;-)
mchristyuk
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Spoke to my mechanic this morning regarding welding of the arms.. apparently any kind of weld on a suspension component now is an instant fail at MOT time..
Whether the MOT tester is competent at the job is another question entirely of course...!
Mark
Whether the MOT tester is competent at the job is another question entirely of course...!
Mark
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Just spoke to my MOT tester who said that if it was welded from new and the "new" weld was done properly how would anyone know it had been repaired?
Sort of what you are saying Mark.
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Indeed.
Also if it is the original manufacturer who decides that is the right course of action and is the correct repair/build procedure then it is also OK...
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I have just purchased a lower rear WB from Eurospares own pattern part. Looks well made and finished with much more metal around the bush.
Bought it whilst on special offer for about the same price as the VAT on a OEM part from Maserati
Now just need to arrange fitting.
Bought it whilst on special offer for about the same price as the VAT on a OEM part from Maserati
Now just need to arrange fitting.