Brake discs for the 4200

Almichie

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I've just order a set of front disc's from Opie oils at a very reasonable price indeed. I now need a set of brake pads. Looking around there are a number of bad reviews on the yellow stuff pads, but an equal number of good ones! I'm tempted to give them a go as it looks like the poor reviews are older, with new improved friction material now being used good reviews are begining to appear. And good news is always few and far between; people in general are far more happy (in the UK at least) to voice a bad experience. They say good news isn't news after all!

Has anyone else had experience with newer yellow stuff on the front?

Al
 

Chrisbassett

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I think Benny's has recent yellow stuff experience and all positive. I'll try them next time I need to change, or maybe before if they are good for track driving...
 

Almichie

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Looking a little more it turns out the red stuff are ceramic/Kevlar compound pads; the more I read about these the more I am drawn towards them.

Lower dust levels, superior stopping power, lower noise, good for the occasional track day, reduced fade, longer lasting etc.. The only down side is a long wear in from new (500 miles). It would mean id have to drive the car for that distance without going crazy, I suppose if I fitted them now and drove this in the winter they will be ready for summer.

Typing this has convinced me to give them a go and act as a guinea pig for the forum!! ....goes off to see what deals are about...
 

2b1ask1

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Don't they need to be hot to work properly though? last thing you would want is to be turning off the motorway and find your brakes are too cold to function!!!
 

Almichie

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Don't they need to be hot to work properly though? last thing you would want is to be turning off the motorway and find your brakes are too cold to function!!!


Apparently not at all; they are placed in between the green and yellow stuff I the EBC chart. The reviews I have read seem to good
 

hodroyd

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I have used EBC Reds on my XJR and that was a while ago now, they were excellent and they have improved the compound since then, so should be fine..!!
 

BennyD

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Looking a little more it turns out the red stuff are ceramic/Kevlar compound pads; the more I read about these the more I am drawn towards them.

Lower dust levels, superior stopping power, lower noise, good for the occasional track day, reduced fade, longer lasting etc.. The only down side is a long wear in from new (500 miles). It would mean id have to drive the car for that distance without going crazy, I suppose if I fitted them now and drove this in the winter they will be ready for summer.

Typing this has convinced me to give them a go and act as a guinea pig for the forum!! ....goes off to see what deals are about...

I've got EBC yellows on my 335D and the rear of my spyder. They work really well and will seriously think about putting them on the front when t he time comes. I'm interested to see how the reds pan out as I seem to remember reading that they can have a squeal problem.
 

Almichie

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I've got EBC yellows on my 335D and the rear of my spyder. They work really well and will seriously think about putting them on the front when t he time comes. I'm interested to see how the reds pan out as I seem to remember reading that they can have a squeal problem.

I read this too, but it looks to be a pre-ceramic issue issue. My discs have a delay and won't be with me until end of Jan now so they won't get installed for a while.
 

BennyD

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The good thing about yellows is they have very good bite from cold and, so far, I haven't managed to get them to fade. However, I'll be working on that when the roads get drier!
 

Almichie

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I opted for the yellow after having a conversation with EBC.

However when fitting the new brakes yesterday I had a lot of trouble getting the pads in; remembering people having to file them down ( and frustrated having to do this) I eventually got them to fit.

On the last caliper one pad just dropped in, which got me thinking about the guides and I looked a bit closer. I was amazed to see some looked to be angled. I just thought, at this point, poor quality and finished putting it all back together.

Went out for a very short drive (about a mile) and when I returned the front brakes were very hot.

Looking outside of the forum it seems that Brembo calipers are renowned for what is called plate lift, where the stainless steel guide sits into the aluminium caliper, it corrodes between the dissimilar metals and pushes the plate into the pad. In fact I am sure this is now my issue and probably what caused the disc failure to begin with.

If you have to file the padsto get them in I would suspect you too have the same issue...

It will all be coming appart again very soon!
 

BennyD

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Could be. I've read a lot about having to file pads to fit but, personally, I've never had a problem fitting brake pads to mine and I've used several different kinds.
 

BennyD

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My green grippers went straight in too. I've never had to file any pads that I've fitted of the spyder.