3200 GT Collectable?

[Mott The Hoople]

The problem with the 3200 and 4200 manual (speaking from owning both) is that there is a very long disconnect of transmission and power between gear changes and this really takes a lot of the pleasure away from the driving and as such it is quite hard to drive the 3200 manuals quickly on track etc. there is a long throw on the changes and it just seems to disconnect the car for too long. The auto 3200 is much easier to drive quickly around town thanks to it's longer gearing etc.... The CC on the 4200 is definitely the pick of the boxes.

I agree with this. You can't rush the gear changes on a manual car. However, I still vastly prefer it and I wouldn't consider an automatic. Each to his own preference - it would be a dull world if everybody was the same.
Steve.

 

[alfatwo]

Same here Steve.. that old rock crusher Getrag aint to bad when the oils warmed up, You should drive some manual Fessers from the same era if you want difficult!

It's even better if you chuck in some "Extra Lube"

Dave

 

[Contigo]

2nd gear on the old fezzas is best avoided from cold lol. Either that or double declutch needed!

 

[alfatwo]

That old German Getrag is lots more user friendly than anything that came out of Maranello at the time..

Another plus then for the classic Maserati 3200GT!

Dave

 

[davy83]

Best party trick ever

But you do miss out on the hilarity of a kickdown to 1st in sport mode whilst you try and hold her steady

 

[No 1]

The £22950 car on Richard Grace web site is not a true Assetto Corsa.
Would be interesting to see what a good AC's is worth now that it appears 3200 values are at last starting to creep up - but £24100 for a green one?!

 

[allandwf]

One was advertised at 24500 last month, was only for sale for a day or so before it was snapped up. How close to asking price not sure.

 

[No 1]

Would be interesting to know how many UK AC's are still around - already a rarity and i suspect getting rarer!

 

[CatmanV2]

The £22950 car on Richard Grace web site is not a true Assetto Corsa.

He's very clear in the advert that he's not trying to say it is

C

 

[No 1]

I wasn't suggesting that he was, merely pointing out that if a standard 3200 offered by a reputable dealer was on offer at £22950, what are AC 's now worth and that this strengthening of prices has got to be good for all 3200's!

 

[Mott The Hoople]

2nd gear on the old fezzas is best avoided from cold lol. Either that or double declutch needed!

I avoid second on the 3200 too when the oil's cold, it's fine after a mile or two. "Rockgrinder" is a great description of that Getrag box. 'Reassuring firm' gearchange that is. Must be hard to break it.
Steve.

 

[RSM Masser]

2nd gear on the old fezzas is best avoided from cold lol. Either that or double declutch needed!

Double de-clutch! On a Fezza! Last time I did that was in the late eighties on a 8 wheel Scammel, no power assisted steering, brakes or clutch. The gear change exercise involved starting in 1st and driving a short distance, changing up through the box to top gear (16th!!!) then reversing the procedure back to 1st.
Every gear was double de clutch (no syncromesh)
We was allowed to use both feet on the clutch pedal and lever off the steering wheel by standing up!
Proper man test, the leg pump was incredible we had to stop and try to walk round for 10 minutes to get the blood flowing again.

 

[tappets]

Well............nice to hear the AC price question raised a few eyebrows! I imported No.55/75 myself back in 2009 and the going rate back then was approx. 15k so I'm happy to realise a little positive gain against the $ I've spent keeping her in top shape........P/Pot, T/B, cambelt every 3 yrs etc etc. Fortunately for me I do all my own maintenance myself which has been very handy to say the least

 

[allandwf]

Well............nice to hear the AC price question raised a few eyebrows! I imported No.55/75 myself back in 2009 and the going rate back then was approx. 15k so I'm happy to realise a little positive gain against the $ I've spent keeping her in top shape........P/Pot, T/B, cambelt every 3 yrs etc etc. Fortunately for me I do all my own maintenance myself which has been very handy to say the least

Not sure if details of 55 are on "the list". What is the colour and gearbox? and I'll update if required.

 

[Mott The Hoople]

Do we know how many 3200s are on the UK roads these days? Or how many of these are manual gearboxes?

 

[allandwf]

This is the list of ACs that the forum know of. Re 3200s "How many left states 167 manuals 162 autos, though their figures are a bit hit and miss.

Up to date as of 17/04/2017
# Colour Gearbox Note
1 Silver Manual
2
3 Red Auto
4 4 Silver manual Broken for spares.
5 Black Auto
6
7
8 Red Auto
9 Red Manual
10
11 Red Auto
12
13 Red Manual (in Australia)
14
15 Red Auto
16 Silver Auto
17 Black
18 Black Auto
19 Silver Manual
20 Black auto
21
22 Red Manual(Bodykit.)
23 Silver Auto
24
25
26
27 Black Auto
28
29 Black Auto
30 Black Auto
31 Black Auto ( in Australia.)
32
33 Black Manual
34 Black Auto ( Australia.)
35 Black Auto
36 Silver Manual
37
38 Silver
39
40 Black Manual
41 Red Manual
42 Black Auto ( Broken.)
43 Red Manual
44 Red Manual (in Cyprus, Nicosia )
45
46 Silver Manual
47 Silver Auto

48
49
50 Silver Auto (in Australia)
51 Red Manual
52 Silver Manual (Colour changed to Black.)
53
54 Silver Manual (possibly wrecked?)
55
56
57 Silver
58 Silver Auto
59
60 Black Manual
61 Black
62
63 Silver
64 Silver Manual
65
66 Black Manual
67
68 Red Auto
69
70 Black Manual
71
72 Red Manual (in Australia)
73
74 Silver Manual
75 Silver Auto Carbon Kit[/COLOR

 

[Gran5port]

The problem with the 3200 and 4200 manual (speaking from owning both) is that there is a very long disconnect of transmission and power between gear changes and this really takes a lot of the pleasure away from the driving and as such it is quite hard to drive the 3200 manuals quickly on track etc. there is a long throw on the changes and it just seems to disconnect the car for too long. The auto 3200 is much easier to drive quickly around town thanks to it's longer gearing etc.... The CC on the 4200 is definitely the pick of the boxes.

This is from RAC:

In June 1999 the standard six-speed manual version of the 3200GT was joined by a 4-speed automatic option, which helped see UK sales reach a record 352 during 2000, a 72% increase over 1999, itself a previous best-ever year for the marque from Via Ciro Menotti. One of the key complaints of Maserati owners was the length of warranty, and in September 2000 the warranty was extended from two to three years or 60,000 miles. The 2001 model year car saw a number of detailed changes aiming at making it easier to drive. This 3200GT boasted a massively improved steering system, with a re-geared rack to combat the nervousness of the earlier cars with just the right amount of heft and feel. The engine management system was also radically overhauled. Turbo lag, that pregnant pause when the turbochargers spool up to speed, was still present, but the throttle became something that could be modulated, making the 3200GT a far more fluid performer.

http://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-reviews/maserati/3200gt/207934/

I've been looking at the listing of the verdi mistral Maserati and from doing further research it seems like no errors was used in the listing! even down to the number plate, it is actually advertised for £250k 

 

[Gran5port]

 

[Gran5port]

 

[tappets]

AC

My apologies Allan.........typo, it's 50/75, Grigio Touring with Nero leather/red piping, Auto trans.

Not sure if details of 55 are on "the list". What is the colour and gearbox? and I'll update if required.