Value difference of F1 shift and ZF

bigbob

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If we said 2010 cars so there’s no variables with variators, and 40k miles. Both cars having recently had brakes all round and the MC having had a clutch, the MC would be about £28k retail, the auto around £25k.
Whichever one of those you go for that is great value - brilliant cars. Mine is a 2011 61 plate GTS auto on 55k so would that retail about the same as newer but higher miles? Not asking about trade just interested in the retail market.
 

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Whichever one of those you go for that is great value - brilliant cars. Mine is a 2011 61 plate GTS auto on 55k so would that retail about the same as newer but higher miles? Not asking about trade just interested in the retail market.
Around the same. Classic colour combo, properly looked after and one owner are big positives. 55k miles is the negative as you’re aware.
 

bigbob

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Around the same. Classic colour combo, properly looked after and one owner are big positives. 55k miles is the negative as you’re aware.
Cheers. If it wasn't so good then I wouldn't have used it - catch 22! I can see why you are doing so well Dicky as there is still little to touch them for an affordable feelgood, increasingly summer/weekend car purchase. I was lockdown looking at the V8 M6 coupe which is great value and stonking performance but rear seat space is a bit tight.

The problem up here in Scotland is servicing - we have two main agents but with MP Supercars gone no real alternative.
 

ChrisQP09

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I believe we sell more Granturismo Sports than any other dealership in the country so am in a decent position to comment. I am aware that lots of people on here prefer the F1 Gearbox, MC Shift. This is definitely not the case for the wider market on Granturismo Sports. The MC Autoshift gearbox is fitted to around 90% of the U.K. 2013MY onwards cars. This shows that when new, the auto was vastly more popular, and second hand, this is also the case. This is because most buyers use the car either as a daily/frequent use car, they want the ease of use that the auto brings, and they avoid clutch replacement costs or gearbox issues. I believe there to be a small reduction of £2-3k for an MC as oppose to an auto at present. This may change as the cars grow older and become second or third vehicles in the household as an MC provides a more involved ‘occasional’ drive. They are also far fewer in number, a reported 43 U.K. examples so that may help their price to gain parity or even a premium over the auto.
@JonW the MC Shift gearbox was discontinued at 2018MY.
Is this 43 mc shift f1 across all years?
 

TurkishAerolines

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Is this a U.K. car?
Hi Richard, it's at Emirates. Sharing some photos as well and I think the color combo is not very ususal. Is the red tone the "Rosso Trionfale Metallic". The yellow suspension warning seems to be a sign of a trouble with skyhook? Car is in another city and I am evaluating if I should bother to go and see the car.
 

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You read it wrong. He was referring to GranTurismo Sport MC-Shift (Not Granturismo S MC-Shift) -
Here you go...

Around 1,300 Granturismo in the UK total. Pretty rare by most standards.

Compared to over 5,000 Vantages.
 
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outrun

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Cheers. If it wasn't so good then I wouldn't have used it - catch 22! I can see why you are doing so well Dicky as there is still little to touch them for an affordable feelgood, increasingly summer/weekend car purchase. I was lockdown looking at the V8 M6 coupe which is great value and stonking performance but rear seat space is a bit tight.

The problem up here in Scotland is servicing - we have two main agents but with MP Supercars gone no real alternative.
Yes there is. David Philip in Edinburgh and the legendary Stewart Roden in West Lothian can both do a good job and both are better than MP every were IMHO.
 

bigbob

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Yes there is. David Philip in Edinburgh and the legendary Stewart Roden in West Lothian can both do a good job and both are better than MP every were IMHO.
Cheers is David Phillips the guy that Kenny Dunn uses for servicing? I always thought Stewart Roden was for more interesting cars than mine but I will take a peek.
 

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Quite nice looking facelift 4.2 in silver about to finish auction on ‘themarket’. Only on 8600 at the moment with 10 mins left. Unless it goes up right at the end looks a nice buy for someone.
 

Guy

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As with most things maserati, it's not about the numbers, it's about the feeling. And an MC-shift FEELS much more special.

If you were worried about tenths, you wouldn't buy a maserati at all. ;)
The MC Shift also has a shorter final drive so improves acceleration, increases fuel consumption but adds to the fun. I think both are great and more important to buy a good example regardless.
 

Guy

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Exactly what I thought would be the case. This forum is for enthusiast Maserati drivers, not the typical purchaser. I have manual, full auto and manual hydraulic clutch paddleshift cars in my fleet, and when choosing my GC, went for the autobox for the reasons Dickie states. My experience of the Vanquish with a paddleshift manual (very similar to the MC shift I think), is that its a total pain in the a.se in traffic, reversing is a pain (especially uphill where you can smell the clutch burning), the auto function is terriby jerky and the clutch wear is very high per mile compared to that of a manual.

With replacement parts alone for the Aston clutch at over £3k, this is def not suitable as a daily driver IMO. Mine is just a concours garage queen, doing about 300 miles per annum, so not a problem for me, but doing about 3k miles in the GC, I'm glad I chose the auto, that seems to suit the GT/Cabrio brief far better than the MC IMO.
Nice to have all different versions to make the comparison but I recall the Vanquish box was far inferior to the F575 at the time. The MC Shift is 599 based so a lot more modern and not at the bleeding edge of flappy paddle tech.