Value difference of F1 shift and ZF

TurkishAerolines

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Edit: message reduced to main point so maybe now I can have some interest?

  1. I am looking at a 2014 Granturismo with F1 option. Is there a resale value difference between F1 and ZF like one getting less depreciation?
  2. Were alcantara seat inserts, carbon side mirrors/rear spoiler/dashboard trims also option for Granturismo Sport in UK? This is how the car comes with.
Thanks,
Tufan
 
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JonW

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I thought all Granturismo Sport’s, post 2013 were the auto with MC Auto Shift...?
 

Tufan

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Currently the one for sale is like 15%-20% more premium then others so I wondered if it is worthed. Rarity is important and it was always serviced by dealer. Exterior color is a bit unusual, a red tone which I don't know, inside white leather, charchoal black alcantara.
 

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No clutch to change with an MC Auto shift, surely that fact should be reflected in values? The gear change difference is only going to be measured in tenth of a second so I'm happy not paying £3k for the loss of a tenth.
 

dickygrace

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I believe we sell more Granturismo Sports than any other dealership in the country so am in a decent position to comment. I am aware that lots of people on here prefer the F1 Gearbox, MC Shift. This is definitely not the case for the wider market on Granturismo Sports. The MC Autoshift gearbox is fitted to around 90% of the U.K. 2013MY onwards cars. This shows that when new, the auto was vastly more popular, and second hand, this is also the case. This is because most buyers use the car either as a daily/frequent use car, they want the ease of use that the auto brings, and they avoid clutch replacement costs or gearbox issues. I believe there to be a small reduction of £2-3k for an MC as oppose to an auto at present. This may change as the cars grow older and become second or third vehicles in the household as an MC provides a more involved ‘occasional’ drive. They are also far fewer in number, a reported 43 U.K. examples so that may help their price to gain parity or even a premium over the auto.
@JonW the MC Shift gearbox was discontinued at 2018MY.
 

dickygrace

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Currently the one for sale is like 15%-20% more premium then others so I wondered if it is worthed. Rarity is important and it was always serviced by dealer. Exterior color is a bit unusual, a red tone which I don't know, inside white leather, charchoal black alcantara.
Is this a U.K. car?
 

dickygrace

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Another point, it’s the reversal of the 09MY-12MY. The MC Shift is far more sporty looking with the side skirts, lipped boot, Neptune wheels. Also, the software on the 09-11 auto boxes was a little slower so the MC is a considerably more involved drive. It also sounds better due to exhaust changes. New and used, pre-facelift (excepting 12MY Sport Pack cars) MC Shifts are more plentiful and more sought after.
 

Sam McGoo

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The gear change difference is only going to be measured in tenth of a second so I'm happy not paying £3k for the loss of a tenth.
As with most things maserati, it's not about the numbers, it's about the feeling. And an MC-shift FEELS much more special.

If you were worried about tenths, you wouldn't buy a maserati at all. ;)
 

Sam McGoo

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As Richard said, pre face-lift, the mc-shift offers more than just the gearbox so IMO is the one to go for. (although you can get an auto with all the options and sports pack etc)
Post face-lift, it just depends if your a town driver or a country lane driver.
 

Lavazza

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Another point, it’s the reversal of the 09MY-12MY. The MC Shift is far more sporty looking with the side skirts, lipped boot, Neptune wheels. Also, the software on the 09-11 auto boxes was a little slower so the MC is a considerably more involved drive. It also sounds better due to exhaust changes. New and used, pre-facelift (excepting 12MY Sport Pack cars) MC Shifts are more plentiful and more sought after.
What do you think the value difference is, like for like, on pre facelift MC Shift v Auto?
 

Doctor Houx

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I believe we sell more Granturismo Sports than any other dealership in the country so am in a decent position to comment. I am aware that lots of people on here prefer the F1 Gearbox, MC Shift. This is definitely not the case for the wider market on Granturismo Sports.
Exactly what I thought would be the case. This forum is for enthusiast Maserati drivers, not the typical purchaser. I have manual, full auto and manual hydraulic clutch paddleshift cars in my fleet, and when choosing my GC, went for the autobox for the reasons Dickie states. My experience of the Vanquish with a paddleshift manual (very similar to the MC shift I think), is that its a total pain in the a.se in traffic, reversing is a pain (especially uphill where you can smell the clutch burning), the auto function is terriby jerky and the clutch wear is very high per mile compared to that of a manual.

With replacement parts alone for the Aston clutch at over £3k, this is def not suitable as a daily driver IMO. Mine is just a concours garage queen, doing about 300 miles per annum, so not a problem for me, but doing about 3k miles in the GC, I'm glad I chose the auto, that seems to suit the GT/Cabrio brief far better than the MC IMO.
 

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Exactly what I thought would be the case. This forum is for enthusiast Maserati drivers, not the typical purchaser. I have manual, full auto and manual hydraulic clutch paddleshift cars in my fleet, and when choosing my GC, went for the autobox for the reasons Dickie states. My experience of the Vanquish with a paddleshift manual (very similar to the MC shift I think), is that its a total pain in the a.se in traffic, reversing is a pain (especially uphill where you can smell the clutch burning), the auto function is terriby jerky and the clutch wear is very high per mile compared to that of a manual.

With replacement parts alone for the Aston clutch at over £3k, this is def not suitable as a daily driver IMO. Mine is just a concours garage queen, doing about 300 miles per annum, so not a problem for me, but doing about 3k miles in the GC, I'm glad I chose the auto, that seems to suit the GT/Cabrio brief far better than the MC IMO.
The GC only comes as an auto, you can’t get an MC GC. There’s a GCMC just to confuse matters but it has an auto box.