Tyre Pressure Monitoring System

maserati

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The tyre pressure monitoring system on my QP is now showing a fault on the display. The most likely explanation is that the batteries in the sensors have reached the end of their normal life. Apparently this means removing the tyres, replacing the sensors and updating the computer programme via the SD3. I am told the Maserati parts cost circa £500. Are there any alternatives?

Regards,

Paul
 

conaero

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Not heard of that Paul. I would consult Emblem, if you have not done already.

If you do manage to sort it yourself may I ask that you share in the way of a how to?
 

maserati

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I asked Emblem about this a while ago. My thought was to wait until the rear tyres needed changing and to then to have the TPMS work done at the same time. As I recall Emblem stated that each sensor has a unique serial number and this has to be uploaded through the SD3 so that it can be read by the on board electronics. The TPMS is not a standard feature. It is one of those extras that can be specified when buying from new. You would think that it could also be retro-fitted. It is not therefore an essential piece of kit. That said I would prefer to clear the icon from the display and eliminate the accompanying beeps when firing up....... Beep beep. I am now beginning sound like the Roadrunner!

Paul
 

maserati

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One other thing of note I should add. Whilst the maintenance issue is expensive, the system did correctly detect and give warning about a puncture in my front offside tyre during a visit to Bristol last year. This enabled me to get a replacement without further damage or mishap.

Paul
 

maserati

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I have now had all four wheel sensors replaced together two new rear tyres and the rear wheels refurbished. The part numbers for the wheel sensors are 224549. They cost £87.36 each plus VAT. Emblem charged one hour labour (£80 plus VAT) to fit, set up the system and road test. So around £515 for this job alone. The old sensors were grey in colour and embossed with the Ferrari logo. The new sensors are orange in appearance and are supposed to have an increased service life.

Regards,

Paul
 

Parisien

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Lots of threads on this issue on ML, as ever if a system proves expensive or time consuming to look after, lots would think of disabling it! It doesn't seem really up to the job, how to other TPMS systems on other marques fare as regards these issues?

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maserati

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Parisien,

To be fair to Maserati the system did actually detect and give warning of both low pressure and a puncture as it was designed to do. That said the maintenance issues are expensive. I did therefore consider disabling the system as you suggested. It may be a small point but I didn't fancy having a redundant button in the overhead console. With regards to providence and service history it is not a good selling point either. Anyway whatever the merits I decided to make a single investment to replace the sensors in the knowledge that they should last some seven years. This represents an improvement over the original five year longevity. This is the first car I have owned with a TPMS so I cannot say much about other manufacturers.

Regards,

Paul
 

maserati

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TPMS Update

From 2012, Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) will form part of the MOT Test. Vehicles on which TPMS was originally fitted will have to have it fully operable. When this test is implemented one faulty sensor will result in a fail.

Paul
 

safrane

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Had this on my 607, disabled it as it was far to fussy and I had faults etc almost on a weekly basis.
 

Parisien

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TPMS Update

From 2012, Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) will form part of the MOT Test. Vehicles on which TPMS was originally fitted will have to have it fully operable. When this test is implemented one faulty sensor will result in a fail.

Paul

Another expensive fix then...... as time goes by...it all adds up!


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bigbob

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I put TPM on my GTS and it seems fine so far. A five year life on the sensors will do me. I believe that all *** ones are the same so there is an option for a cheaper retro-fit I presume?
 

Benmac

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If I was getting my wheels refurbished would it be possible to remove and replace the original sensors? My wheels could do with a spruce up but if I can avoid spending another £400 ish on parts I'll be happy!
 

maserati

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I have now had all four wheel sensors replaced together two new rear tyres and the rear wheels refurbished. The part numbers for the wheel sensors are 224549. They cost £87.36 each plus VAT. Emblem charged one hour labour (£80 plus VAT) to fit, set up the system and road test. So around £515 for this job alone. The old sensors were grey in colour and embossed with the Ferrari logo. The new sensors are orange in appearance and are supposed to have an increased service life.

Regards,

Paul

Benmac

With regards to removing sensors and replacing them I can only refer you to my previous entry. Once the decision has been made to proceed, it is difficult to see how much of a saving can be made. (Emblem advised against replacing only one sensor. Better to replace all four in one exercise) As far as obtaining components from another manufacturer Emblem pointed out that they could not be certain that the on board electronics would be able to pick up and read pattern parts.

Regards,

Paul
 

Benmac

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Thanks Paul. Luckily the chap who I'll get to do the tyre removal and fiddle with the sensors is well versed in dealing with them in general. At the very least I'll try the old ones once the wheels are done and if they're dead then it looks like spending the cash will be necessary. Ho hum.
 

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TPMS Update

From 2012, Tyre Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) will form part of the MOT Test. Vehicles on which TPMS was originally fitted will have to have it fully operable. When this test is implemented one faulty sensor will result in a fail.

Paul

Yes - but I believe it will only apply to cars sold after the introduction date.

I have the TPMS on my C6 turned off because in winter I put steel rims with winter tyres on the car. I only put standard valves in them to save money. I could have put another set of TPMS valves but to be honest it's not just the money saved; I like having simple conventional valves. One less thing to go wrong. Citroën are using Siemens valves and they corrode and snap off - not a great design from our German friends. And yes, they cost the same sort of money Paul was charged.
 

maserati

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Yes - but I believe it will only apply to cars sold after the introduction date.

I have the TPMS on my C6 turned off because in winter I put steel rims with winter tyres on the car. I only put standard valves in them to save money. I could have put another set of TPMS valves but to be honest it's not just the money saved; I like having simple conventional valves. One less thing to go wrong. Citroën are using Siemens valves and they corrode and snap off - not a great design from our German friends. And yes, they cost the same sort of money Paul was charged.

The information I provided on this was lifted from the Dept of Transport website.... I think you are right about the MOT requirement only applying to vehicles manufactured after the introduction date in 2012.

Regards,

Paul