The whinging bitches politics poo-bin thread

[CatmanV2]

“excess profits of energy producers”. I think most people would understand that.

For sure. I said could be applied.....

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[Felonious Crud]

Here’s what I could find in terms of donations from energy company linked parties…

Liz Truss reveals campaign donation of £100,000 from wife of ex-BP executive | Liz Truss | The Guardian

Contributions were revealed minutes before the new PM announced details of her plan to tackle rising energy bills

amp.theguardian.com

In addition she received £30,000 from pro-fracking parties.

Liz Truss Campaign Funded by Donors From Pro-Fracking Groups and Climate Denier

The leadership campaign of the UK’s new prime minister was partly funded by individuals involved in influential pro-fracking think tanks and a former Brexit Party MEP who has called climate change a “myth” and a “religion”. Two days after taking office, Truss gave the green light for new...

www.desmog.com

Thanks. I still can't find any link to Shell. Unless 'wife of BP person' is the same thing as Shell. which seems unlikely.

Funny, when I renamed this thread to the whinging ***** (etc) thread I thought the name would be a deterrent to posting whingey bollox stuff. And yet we continue.

 

[ScottH]

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Surely that scale is very wrong.. you’d hope our rivers don’t have the same amount as the government!

 

[mowlas]

The ‘not’ budget.

Well looks like the market has well and truly reacted… at least initial reactions anyway.

As the top voted comment in The Times stated:

“"Fiscal event" sounds too much like "Special Military Operation" for my liking. This is a budget by another name, only rebranded in the hope of avoiding searching scrutiny. Perhaps we should refer to it as the "Special Fiscal Operation".

And like Putin, the Government seems to have bet the house (well potentially our children’s houses) on it.

Mini-budget 2022: pound crashes as chancellor cuts stamp duty and top rate of income tax – as it happened

Tax cuts to cost Treasury around £37bn in 2023-24, official figures reveal

www.theguardian.com

 

[FIFTY]

It seems pretty decent to me

 

[safrane]

The ‘not’ budget.

Well looks like the market has well and truly reacted… at least initial reactions anyway.

As the top voted comment in The Times stated:

“"Fiscal event" sounds too much like "Special Military Operation" for my liking. This is a budget by another name, only rebranded in the hope of avoiding searching scrutiny. Perhaps we should refer to it as the "Special Fiscal Operation".

And like Putin, the Government seems to have bet the house (well potentially our children’s houses) on it.

Mini-budget 2022: pound crashes as chancellor cuts stamp duty and top rate of income tax – as it happened

Tax cuts to cost Treasury around £37bn in 2023-24, official figures reveal

www.theguardian.com

Have to say that this is going to be a short term gain for a very long period of pain. You don't get anything for nothing and sadly unless you are earning over >£150k pa, you will find a lot of pain in a year or two.

 

[philw696]

I wonder what the percentage of the population earn a £150,000 plus a year in the UK ?
I know I have never earned that much in my life.
So for people on minimum wage life is going to be very hard

 

[CatmanV2]

I wonder what the percentage of the population earn a £150,000 plus a year in the UK ?
I know I have never earned that much in my life.
So for people on minimum wage life is going to be very hard

About 1% I think. That's what the guy on the BBC just mentioned

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[philw696]

About 1% I think. That's what the guy on the BBC just mentioned

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Wow there's a massive gap between the high and low earners then

 

[CatmanV2]

Wow there's a massive gap between the high and low earners then

On a global scale we all on here are un-imaginably wealthy. And probably anyone earning UK average wages is probably in the 1% of highest paid people globally.....

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[bigbob]

On a global scale we all on here are un-imaginably wealthy. And probably anyone earning UK average wages is probably in the 1% of highest paid people globally.....

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This is true. I have a friend who has worked in many overseas countries and he keeps pointing this truth out. The 45% tax rate abolition was actually only a small percentage of the total government ‘spend’ but of course so much of the media only picks up on this. A mistake to have done it in my view but I think it is more a way of trying to gain traction for the election in two years time as they can then bill Labour as a tax raising party to try and stop all the London elites voting red. Doubt it will work but that’s my view on the logic…

 

[philw696]

 

[Wattie]

I wonder what the percentage of the population earn a £150,000 plus a year in the UK ?
I know I have never earned that much in my life.
So for people on minimum wage life is going to be very hard

Most politicians.
Cunning pay award increase.

 

[Wattie]

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Yeah but the person left With 17.5 circa to live on is struggling because of what these polies have done.

The other person has £115k to struggle by on.

You don’t explain it like that Nick.

 

[Wattie]

Thanks. I still can't find any link to Shell. Unless 'wife of BP person' is the same thing as Shell. which seems unlikely.

Funny, when I renamed this thread to the whinging * (etc) thread I thought the name would be a deterrent to posting whingey bollox stuff. And yet we continue.

That’s what makes this place interesting…..

 

[philw696]

 

[midlifecrisis]

I can't see the new Tory seats in the Norf lasting long if our Chancellor Howard Brown continues like this.

I mean running a branch of Halifax is one thing but macro-economics of a nation are another.

not quite a full or proper Kwarteng




Halifax bloke

 

[mowlas]

As the pound and bonds continue to crash, the recession deepens and inflation rises further, the books must surely be open now on:

• Will Kwarteng be replaced before Truss by April?
• Will Triuss and Kwarteng go together by April?

This pair are going to be an absolute disaster.

 

[DLax69]

This is true. I have a friend who has worked in many overseas countries and he keeps pointing this truth out. The 45% tax rate abolition was actually only a small percentage of the total government ‘spend’ but of course so much of the media only picks up on this. A mistake to have done it in my view but I think it is more a way of trying to gain traction for the election in two years time as they can then bill Labour as a tax raising party to try and stop all the London elites voting red. Doubt it will work but that’s my view on the logic…

The Conservative Party here (Republicans) beat on the Dems as "tax-and-spend" liberals...but the last time there was welfare reform, for example, a liberal was president. The only times in recent history that we have had budget surpluses (surpli?) or made significant strides on deficit reduction was under Democratic administrations.

The Republicans are the "-and-spend" party. Cut taxes for themselves and their pals, and then crank up the dollar printers. All while selling brown dirt farmers on the idea that they are (or can become) identically resourced.

When you see someone in 2022 driving a twenty year old Hyundai with a Trump bumper sticker (and I have), then you meet the definition of "voting against your own self-interest.". But the con job plainly works in enough places.

 

[DLax69]

The Conservative Party here (Republicans) beat on the Dems as "tax-and-spend" liberals...but the last time there was welfare reform, for example, a liberal was president. The only times in recent history that we have had budget surpluses (surpli?) or made significant strides on deficit reduction was under Democratic administrations.

The Republicans are the "-and-spend" party. Cut taxes for themselves and their pals, and then crank up the dollar printers. All while selling brown dirt farmers on the idea that they are (or can become) identically resourced.

When you see someone in 2022 driving a twenty year old Hyundai with a Trump bumper sticker (and I have), then you meet the definition of "voting against your own self-interest.". But the con job plainly works in enough places.

...and I say this as someone who was a registered Republican until George W. Bush. And at that time, I thought I had seen the Worst Possible President to be elected in my lifetime. Hoo boy.