The TG GS test by Hammond in 2005...always liked this!

[mondie]

Might have to do that one yourself then I couldn't find a link to the TG review of the 4200, looks like its been removed from Youtube at the request of the BBC.

 

[Parisien]

Part of the original review is at the start of the Hammond review....

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[mjheathcote]

So true.
I'm not complaining.
Could not warrant spending £30k on a second toy car, so spending half that amount, and getting my butt on the seat of a Maserati is win win for me!

It might be worth twice....but its not twice the car.....your forgetting the weak link in how good a car performs...the driver behind the wheel



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[richard_masa_4200]

So true.
I'm not complaining.
Could not warrant spending £30k on a second toy car, so spending half that amount, and getting my butt on the seat of a Maserati is win win for me!

^^^^^. What he said.

 

[Mr.Cambio]

Chaps..a question i've always had, but after a small search i think i found the answer. Hammond and others say that the GS is better handling than a 4200. A friend of mine has a GS, and i didn't find any better handling.

After a eurospares check i found out that: springs, shocks, antiroll bars, front wishbone bushings are all the same, with the previous beeing responsible for handling. Personally i think that only the wheels give a slightly better handling, due to rim size and offset. remember, bigger offset gives a lower gravity point, leading to better handling.

SO, i think that only the wheels make the GS handle a bit better.Plus the media of course, that advertised the GS as a sport version of the 4200.

Would love to know if someone knows a bit more regarding handling differences between GS and coupe.

 

[Parisien]

Their suspension is lower too......plus power profile different........and am sure there are one or two other changes which make it better.......as ever though....whose behind the wheel?!


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[Mr.Cambio]

It's lower right, but height is adjustable on any 4200.

A right...whos's behind the wheel is an important question. Which way do you drive your nero Frank?

 

[Parisien]

Like a girl in stilletos............Marios has never seen so little wear on brake pads as there was on mine.....


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[Mr.Cambio]

...remember Dave's avatar a few days ago.. The word 'stilleto' is forbidden

 

[richard_masa_4200]

Their suspension is lower too......plus power profile different........and am sure there are one or two other changes which make it better.......as ever though....whose behind the wheel?!


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I agree. Whoever is behind the wheel probably determines the better between the GS and the 4200.

 

[Parisien]

Very few of us get what ...70/80 % out of a cars performance......you need trained...plus do a lot of track time


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[Mr.Cambio]

Very few of us get what ...70/80 % out of a cars performance......you need trained...plus do a lot of track time


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i think only Robert does!!And Benny...and me.. anyone else?

 

[Parisien]

Modest Nikos....hhhmmmm.............

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[richard_masa_4200]

I will be taking mine on the next Phillip Island track day we have. I'll let you know how Angelina performs.

 

[mjheathcote]

Chaps..a question i've always had, but after a small search i think i found the answer. Hammond and others say that the GS is better handling than a 4200. A friend of mine has a GS, and i didn't find any better handling.

After a eurospares check i found out that: springs, shocks, antiroll bars, front wishbone bushings are all the same, with the previous beeing responsible for handling. Personally i think that only the wheels give a slightly better handling, due to rim size and offset. remember, bigger offset gives a lower gravity point, leading to better handling.

SO, i think that only the wheels make the GS handle a bit better.Plus the media of course, that advertised the GS as a sport version of the 4200.

Would love to know if someone knows a bit more regarding handling differences between GS and coupe.

That's right, and why they say if you change the springs/lower the 4200, and add the FD DBW module to speed the gear change, you can better the GS.
Not sure the wheels can make a difference, the standard 18" are not exactly high profile!

 

[Mr.Cambio]

That's right, and why they say if you change the springs/lower the 4200, and add the FD DBW module to speed the gear change, you can better the GS.
Not sure the wheels can make a difference, the standard 18" are not exactly high profile!

I think the wheels make a difference, if they're different offset..aka it's like putting spacers. My friend who has the GS, has been co driver once i drove mine in the FD springs. He told me it was handling amazing, better than his GS.

 

[zagatoes30]

I can't afford a Gransport and even if I could I don't think I would I can't look at those skirts without thinking what was the designer thinking.

 

[SpyderNick]

I remember upsetting DL when the Gransport first came out by saying the outside looked like Tupperware and the inside with its Draylon cloth and 1 DIN head unit was a step backwards and looked awful.
Also in a drag race on the M32 after a Bristol AutoItalia day a Gransport couldn't gain on me so performance is really not there either.

 

[Andyk]

I can't afford a Gransport and even if I could I don't think I would I can't look at those skirts without thinking what was the designer thinking.

For me the Gransport gave the 3200/4200 shape a more up to date look .......AFter all by then the 4200 bacis shape was knocking on 10 years old.......The Gransport and the 4200 facelift gave it a whole new lease of life.......

 

[Mr.Cambio]

For me the Gransport gave the 3200/4200 shape a more up to date look .......AFter all by then the 4200 bacis shape was knocking on 10 years old.......The Gransport and the 4200 facelift gave it a whole new lease of life.......

+1 but the shape of the model remains the same since 1999. A lot of people mix the 3200 and the 4200, they think they're the same model, due to almost the same exterior. So, it's not 10 years, it's much more.