Sleeping with the devil?

philw696 said:
In my news feed this morning about the rising theft of charging cables I know I shouldn't but the schoolboy in me it made me chuckle.
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Not sure how they can steal cables as they're locked in. You have to unlock the car to remove the cable, I know I've tried at work.
 
Oneball said:
That’s a good point. Although there’s a switch to battery stuff to replace petrol hand tools I’ve not seen any non ICE big plant.
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That's because the 'big plant' is starting to use hydrogen. There are plenty of hydrogen truck in the US and Germany.
 
lifes2short said:
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A mate of mine is a digger driver, and they had a mini JCB digger on the site of one of the house building projects he was working on.
Apparently it was a condition of them getting the planning permission for the site.

Anyway, he said the electric digger lasted only a hour before it had to go on charge for another 16. After the hour they went back to the usual ones.
Kinda defeats the object!
 
GeoffCapes said:
A mate of mine is a digger driver, and they had a mini JCB digger on the site of one of the house building projects he was working on.
Apparently it was a condition of them getting the planning permission for the site.

Anyway, he said the electric digger lasted only a hour before it had to go on charge for another 16. After the hour they went back to the usual ones.
Kinda defeats the object!
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How ridiculous to have such a planning condition especially as it's not workable in the real world at the moment, will be a very very long time before technology is advanced enough to have proper elec plant machinery that has the lasting power they require
 
A few years ago didn't they used to worry when evening came and lights, ovens and kettles all switched on at the same time. What will happen when everyone gets home at 6, plugs in their car and then carried out the above regime. We haven't built any nuclear stations, are winding down fossil fuel power generation and have nowhere near enough wind or sun generation. So buying it in will continue to increase in quantity and cost.
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I rather think that I am a little more optimistic about the future. Nothing changes over-night and there will be an evolution of the infrastructure for such a monumental change. Reading the motoring press (as one does), it is clear that charging points will appear as the demand grows; it's not a chicken and egg situation; pure evolution. Of course owners of electric cars will have to pay for the privilege and the costs will end up on a par with current ICE - powered cars. It is not about costs and I have been the biggest 'anti-electric' move for years; having driven a couple of early Nissan Leafs; which did nothing to sell the idea to me.
Having now looked at several and driven a couple, the whole scene has changed.
In my news feed this morning about the rising theft of charging cables I know I shouldn't but the schoolboy in me it made me chuckle.
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A little like the theft of catalytic converters. Except that charging cables are cheaper and don't damage the rest of the car when taken.
Sorry, truly I am not being a 'volt-head' and I love my 4200 like mad, but this move will be gradual. The national grid will go further in getting power from wind and sun. We will keep our petrol cars as classics and still love them. Electric (and hopefully Hydrogen) cars will just become our daily drives and perhaps even enjoy them.
The world didn't end when we changed from gas lighting to electricity, nor when steam engines were replaced by diesel and then electric locomotives. There were plenty of nay-sayers but life continued as before.
 
Schools should put the kids on giant hamster wheels for an hour a day. The grid gets a top up, the kids get fit, and teach gets a rest; I'm sure that Greta's followers would be queuing up to do their bit ;)
 
Phil H said:
Schools should put the kids on giant hamster wheels for an hour a day. The grid gets a top up, the kids get fit, and teach gets a rest; I'm sure that Greta's followers would be queuing up to do their bit ;)
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And don’t get me started on the scummy benefit claiments who never did a hard days work in their life. I’m not saying all, been there before, but walking around the streets mid afternoon any day of the week. Wait, there’s a rant thread for this....
 
Swedish Paul said:
And don’t get me started on the scummy benefit claiments who never did a hard days work in their life. I’m not saying all, been there before, but walking around the streets mid afternoon any day of the week. Wait, there’s a rant thread for this....
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Aha, ideal candidates for the wheel; the faster they go the more they earn!
 
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