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Normally they price in cars like the Macan with good residuals as a lower lease value because they know the car will retain 70% of its value after the 2 or 3 year lease deals so I don't understand their pricing there at all.

I agree. its madness. The Porsche computer says the residual will be sub 50% in 3 yrs and no value for extras so my car would drop form £60k to c£20k according to their numbers. In reality I should expect £45k+. Reality is that Porsche don't care. They have a 2 yr waiting list so they don't need to use finance as a hook.
 

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Porsche are one of the few that manages the supply vs demand position well. Mercedes and BMW have both created a glut of production and effectively used finance options, leasing and the like to sell more cars but this has the effect of affecting desirability as well as residuals. One look at the value of a 3/4 year old S class or & series shows you how badly they have hampered their value proposition. BMWs, Audis and Mercs are no longer exclusive or high end, with a niche for every occasion and some that don't exist at all (5 series GT, CLS Shooting Brake or X6M anyone?)

Porsche has managed in increase production without devaluing their brand identity and they seem unlikely to do that any time soon. Until they do, we won't see discounts to the leasers and hence we won't see cheap Boxter or Macan leases.

Ferrari, in the other hand are using Maserati as a way of increasing production of high end machines as they continue to protect their core brand with limited production and invitation only specials. They continue to struggle to find a strong market place for Alfa which is a shame as a luxury Alfa saloon could be great. Instead they're making the lovely, lotus-esque 4C in small numbers and the average Guilietta and Mito (sorry if you own one, no offence intended!). At least they have got out of the habit of building large, expensive Fiats that don't sell and stuck them with cool small cars.

Maserati are playing a dangerous game as they really need an Alfieri etc on sale to counter the devalued identity that the Ghibli will and is bringing.
 
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I have been reading these posts avidly
I am not in a position (nor do I wish to) lease any car, but I have found the information here staggeringly good
There is fabulous knowledge on this platform so thanks
and keep it going
I may need to change my other car (a Renault) and I was thinking of an Alfa, not really bothered on the model but I thought of the Guilietta.......................
 

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The Giulietta is a great car. My ex had (has!) one. A 2.0Mj diesel 170. Its great, really enjoyed driving it and although looks are subjective I think they look great