SELLING MAYBE 4 CARS INTO 3 - HELP & THOUGHTS PLEASE - INCLUDING MY 4200!

D Walker

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Think I’d sell all those you are considering.
Then breathe.

then start contemplating next purchase rather than trying to decide what you want/need before selling.
 

rockits

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Think I’d sell all those you are considering.
Then breathe.

then start contemplating next purchase rather than trying to decide what you want/need before selling.
I think you could be right there. I do need the Q7/SQ7 thing I guess really to still give me an option of doing work/site stuff but the other side could easily wait.
 

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I also think I need some more colour in the garage

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rockits

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Agreed. Something up to max 4.5m kind of size seems to make sense.

Just looked back as to when I bought it from the 1st owner and was a little shocked! Not quite 5 years!! Actually nearly 7 years :eek:
I bought it Jan 2015 so a lot longer ago than I thought. Doesn't time fly. So the first owner that bought it new had it for nearly 8 years and I have had it for nearly 7 years so not sure it gets much better than that.

So will be 15 years old in March 2022 and still drives and smells like new. Just about due its 14th annual service/inspection too. Will be very sad to see it go but I think it is time.
 
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Like one or two others. I just speed read. So, my 10c is non-specific.
Given the niche car market has been buoyant until now.
I would sell everything that you're ambivalent about and sit on the money
until interest rates rise, the economy stalls and supercar sales dwindle.
I'd suggest that anyone with cash at that time, will be laughing.
 

bigbob

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So I have been here before a while back as I am sure many of you have. However this time seems to be the right time to make some wholesale changes.

I have my 2007/07 mint 4200 I have had for about 5 years I think that I bought from the 1st owner at 10k miles. It has now hit the heady heights of 15k miles and is still mint. Best example of a 4200 I have driven by a long shot and drives like a new car. Trouble is it is a total garage queen which has hindered me using more than I probably should have. It has still been used regularly and enjoyed but I can see it being used less so now as I just don't do as many miles or journeys as I did. With ongoing non-car projects now and over the next couple of years I suspect I will use it less.

I also have my 2010/10 Jaguar XJL SuperSport that I also love too but again just not using it as much as I would like. Then I have a work/business Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Commercial I have had from new that is again doing less miles. The 2 x Peugeot GTI's will remain as they are classics and not depreciating also great fun to drive. The TVR Chimaera 450 SC is very rare and unique so it seems to make sense to keep this as again is not depreciating. Also would be pretty impossible to replace easily as is a pretty special example after about £40k been spent on it by the previous owner.

I have recently sold my wife's Discovery Sport HSE Luxury that was great but as kids schools changed was doing less miles and also very short journeys. I have just replaced this with a brand new MG ZS EV that seems to be a perfect fit now for the current requirements.

So I have some decisions to make for my cars now. I will be selling the Outlander as don't really need a 2 seater commercial any more for work use as work use has changed a bit since the pandemic. So the plan I think seems to be to sell the Outlander, XJL and also the 4200 then buy in two replacement cars. One will be a do it all 7 Seater SUV kind of thing that can be used for work also longer comfy family journeys. Current thinking is a 3-4 year old Audi SQ7 V8 Diesel.

The most important decision is what to add as the other car. I love the 4200 and it is a great car possibly the best 4200 out there. However I am looking for something the next level up in specialness I guess. I don't need 4 seats so it can be a 2 seater. Don't need much practicality and it doesn't really make sense for it to be massive. A manual would be ideal as well as don't need a GT style auto cruiser. Doesn't need to be a track car as will be mainly/all road use. I'm also less fussed about mileage or age as don't want it to be a garage queen although it would be stored in the garage as want to be able to use it as much as I can being less worried about using it.

I really enjoyed the V8 Vantage I had and would say it was spot on. A better drivers car than the 4200. The V8 was plenty powerful enough for me and out of the box it was spot on power, sound, looks and everything really. I have also found myself looking at R8 V8 Manual's but of course a Strad starts creeping into thinking too. Also do 911's, Cayman's and F Type's start entering the fray as well? Of course a 4.7 GT S MC Shift would be great but is it special enough and maybe the wrong type of car for the required use?

It will be very hard to sell the 4200 as it has been an amazing car and the reason why I came here in the first place many years ago. Nothing has every gone wrong, it has been garaged all its life, it has had an annual service and inspection from main dealer or the best renown specialists from new and really wants for nothing. I have always spent what needs spending but other than routine maintenance at 15k miles from new I guess you don't expect much to go wrong. I know I will never find another 4200 like this ever again so have committed to that being the case. Cars like this don't come up often and maybe even less so now than 5 years ago.

I guess ideal budget for both would be £80k but I could push to £100k if required. The SQ7 is about £50k so would leave me £30-£50k for the other car. Or I could spend less on the daily if you like so Q7 V6 Diesel instead of SQ7 for about £30-£35k that would leave me say £50k-£65k for the other car. I could sell the TVR and increase the budget further but that doesn't seem to make sense as I still love the uniqueness of this particular TVR and again I would not find anything like it again easily.

Has anyone had any similar situations and what did you do? Or has anyone got any thoughts that may help me to the final destination please?
I think you are trying to do too much in one go. I would sell the Mitsubishi and Jag and get the Q7 (or XC90 or Disco5) now. Personally performance SUVs don’t work so I would go the six cylinder diesel (if you want diesel as I would not but hey ho).

The sports car is harder. Selling the 4200 could be a PITA if you think someone will pay top dollar for a low miles example but I would start that process now as well but be prepared for a wait. WBAC will tell you what the bail out option is.

As for the next sports car, the options you have listed are so wide ranging that you need to work out what you want, largely in terms of engine position but it sounds to me like a newer V8 Vantage is the ticket. A mid engined car drives very differently as you know and, for me, is typically overrated.
 

bigbob

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Like one or two others. I just speed read. So, my 10c is non-specific.
Given the niche car market has been buoyant until now.
I would sell everything that you're ambivalent about and sit on the money
until interest rates rise, the economy stalls and supercar sales dwindle.
I'd suggest that anyone with cash at that time, will be laughing.
Whilst I understand the sentiment, for most of us I suspect our money in cars is not enough of our stash to be worth the effort certainly versus how long we would be without nice cars. We don’t need any of these cars and losing 6/12 months of ownership is not worth it. All IMHO.
 

rockits

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I think you are trying to do too much in one go. I would sell the Mitsubishi and Jag and get the Q7 (or XC90 or Disco5) now. Personally performance SUVs don’t work so I would go the six cylinder diesel (if you want diesel as I would not but hey ho).

The sports car is harder. Selling the 4200 could be a PITA if you think someone will pay top dollar for a low miles example but I would start that process now as well but be prepared for a wait. WBAC will tell you what the bail out option is.

As for the next sports car, the options you have listed are so wide ranging that you need to work out what you want, largely in terms of engine position but it sounds to me like a newer V8 Vantage is the ticket. A mid engined car drives very differently as you know and, for me, is typically overrated.

Yes, I'd agree there is too much in one go to deal with in one brisk sitting. I don't need to sell all to fund anything incoming but it makes sense to stage it one piece at a time. I've just had a month trial in a new XC60 R-Design T8 and another month in an XC90 R-Design T8 too and have discounted them both. The XC90 is great and I've had the previous model before albeit the petrol V8 but the 2.0 4 cyl with supercharger, turbo and electric motor with not the best gearbox I've ever drive left me feeling a bit short changed. With the touchscreen interface and overbearing safety features it became a brilliantly practical but fundamentally flawed car for me.

Yes, the Q7 3.0 V6 Diesel would be perfectly fine too but the SQ7 V8 Vorsprung isn't a silly silly amount more. It is one of those that when I've compromised I've always felt maybe I compromised one step too far. Not been a fan of the newer V8 Vantage interiors and preferred the original 4.3 version.

I'll take my time to mull through the options as am in no rush and money is not the defining aspect so I'm in the best position I could be really. I'm not actually sure if I have ever driven a mid engined car at all short of a MK1 MR2 I had years ago! Probably need to get out there and look at an R8 or Evora/Exige or something to see what they are all about.