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breakeronly

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Read this below this morning, may be worth a read

BEWARE! LATEST SCAM.

How to Lock Your Car and Why!

"I locked my car. As I walked away I heard my car door unlock.
I went back and locked my car again three times.

Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I could hear it unlock again!! Naturally alarmed, I looked around
and there were two men sitting in a car next to the Store.

They were obviously watching me intently, and
there seemed no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation.

I quickly abandoned my errand, jumped into my car and sped away.

I went straight to the police station, told them
what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very
successful, scheme being used to gain entry into parked cars.

Two weeks later, my friend's son had a similar
experience....While travelling, he stopped at a motorway service area
to use the toilet.

When he came out to his car less than 5 minutes
later, someone had managed to get into his car and had stolen his
mobile phone, laptop computer, sat-nav, briefcase and other
belongings.

He called the police and since there were no signs
of his car having been broken into, the police told him he had
probably been a victim of the latest robbery tactic – there is a
device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you
lock your doors on your car using your remote locking device.

They sit a distance away and watch for their next
victim. They know you are going inside the Store, restaurant, or
whatever and that they now have a few minutes to steal and run.

The police officer said always to lock your car
manually with the key when parking in a public area. That way if
there is someone sitting in a car nearby watching for their next
victim, it will not be you.

When you lock up with the key upon exiting, it
does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the
remote button, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be
easily intercepted by the device.

This is very real. Be aware of what you just read
and please pass this information on.

Look how many times we all lock our doors with our
remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them -- and bingo,
someone has our code...and potentially whatever is in our car."
 

Contigo

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There is no way to predict which random number the transmitter and receiver have chosen to use as the next code, so re-transmitting the captured code has no effect. With trillions of possibilities, there is also no way to scan through all the codes because it would take years to do that.
 

EXCF350

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Not sure about Maserati's but on some cars if you lock the doors via the key rather than the remote the alarm isn't enabled. Following these instructions could leave the car more vulnerable (not that anyone takes any notice of alarms any more)
 

jluis

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What I read about is that thiefs are using electronic jammers to block the signal from the remote to lock the car.
This way, your lock signal will never be processed by the car and it won't lock itself.

As far as I'm aware it's not currently possible to clone remotes by listening to the signal sent from the remote.
Rolling codes were introduced many years ago to address this vulnerability.
 

CatmanV2

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Not sure about Maserati's but on some cars if you lock the doors via the key rather than the remote the alarm isn't enabled. Following these instructions could leave the car more vulnerable (not that anyone takes any notice of alarms any more)

Indeed. The alarm will not be set unless the remote is used.

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outrun

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That snopes thing has totally ruined my love for Gone in 60 seconds. Memphis Raines can steal anything.
 

Felonious Crud

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What I read about is that thiefs are using electronic jammers to block the signal from the remote to lock the car.
This way, your lock signal will never be processed by the car and it won't lock itself.

As far as I'm aware it's not currently possible to clone remotes by listening to the signal sent from thIe remote.
Rolling codes were introduced many years ago to address this vulnerability.

Happened to a mate of mine in Pretoria. Very real.
 

Felonious Crud

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Lock signal jammed. By the time he got back it was (still) unlocked and anything of value was missing from the inside.
 

Felonious Crud

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He had that as well. In his house. Only with semi-automatics. Three blokes, three guns, my mate, his wife and children. They were hitting her finger with the butt of the gun to try and get the wedding ring off. The CCTV footage was quite something. Funnily enough when I was offered to relocate down there a few years back it wasn't very tempting.
 

TridentTested

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What I read about is that thiefs are using electronic jammers to block the signal from the remote to lock the car.
This way, your lock signal will never be processed by the car and it won't lock itself.

I've heard of this one too. It works because most people don't wait to check the car has actually locked itself; they walk away and vaguely point the key at the car as they walk. Not only does the car remain open, and the alarm un-armed, but you have to wonder about your insurance position if it could be proved the tea-leaves didn't actually break in.

Years of owning cars with dodgy electrics has me conditioned to physically check the door is locked before I walk away.
 

ChrisQP09

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What is said about the jamming device is accurate. The culprit must be within proximity (10-15m), once the user locks the car with the fob, it transmit the radio signal back to the culprit's device with a code. From what I understand the doors can still lock but the device relays the code back when the culprit is ready to gain access, thereby unlocking the doors.

A more elaborate method, is doing the above and apparently using another device to hook up to the on-board diagnostics where key info can be obtained? a tracker is placed and the car is stolen down the line by which time a buyer is waiting and chassis numbers to be itched out.
 

drewf

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What is said about the jamming device is accurate. The culprit must be within proximity (10-15m), once the user locks the car with the fob, it transmit the radio signal back to the culprit's device with a code. From what I understand the doors can still lock but the device relays the code back when the culprit is ready to gain access, thereby unlocking the doors.

A more elaborate method, is doing the above and apparently using another device to hook up to the on-board diagnostics where key info can be obtained? a tracker is placed and the car is stolen down the line by which time a buyer is waiting and chassis numbers to be itched out.

This is very old tech - doesn't work on most cars nowadays. Each time the devices are actuated, the code changes, so a new code will be used to unlock the car - doesn't matter if the old code used to lock the car is captured, as it will not be recognised by the car again.