PZero MGT v F marked 285/35 R20

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FWIW there is a difference between an MGT and F01 marked PZero 285/35/r20 tread pattern. The MGT (on the right in the photo) is from the GT, while the F01 is from the 612. Both are 2020 rear tires. The 245/35r20 MGT and F front tread patterns are identical.

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FWIW there is a difference between an MGT and F01 marked PZero 285/35/r20 tread pattern. The MGT (on the right in the photo) is from the GT, while the F01 is from the 612. Both are 2020 rear tires. The 245/35r20 MGT and F front tread patterns are identical.

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Are they from the same year? The tread pattern sometimes changes over time.
 

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Just what the world needs; a P Zero with less tread pattern. I’d rather use a bald Nanking-Ditchfinder.
 

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FO1 is Ferrari MGT is Maserati. There’s probably a difference in compound or construction. But looking at those photos I reckon the one is just worn and the tread pattern would be the same if it was unworn.
 

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I see they are indeed from the same year - missed that. However I just checked my QPV and my X5. The X5 has the right hand tread, but an older tyre I have as spare has the left hand tread. The QPV has the left hand tread. The X5 are all run flat, but I don’t think that changes the tread pattern. The right hand is not worn, all 4 of mine show the same tread or rather lack of it.
 

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FO1 is Ferrari MGT is Maserati. There’s probably a difference in compound or construction. But looking at those photos I reckon the one is just worn and the tread pattern would be the same if it was unworn.

What Tim said... My Alpina has PZeros with ALP specification which I understand is a different compound. Rears are nearly done now so it will be changed to PS4S
 

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The fronts, which have identical tread patterns, are PZero PZ4 MGT and F03 respectively. The Ferrari F01 rears, while 4420 date coded are not PZ4 (i.e. older design) spec so I assume that explains the different tread pattern.

On a more fun note, it was a beautiful, if cool day, and we went for a spirited drive with the 612 and her Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4's on some nice, twisty and deserted roads. Modern performance winter tires are amazing.

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The fronts, which have identical tread patterns, are PZero PZ4 MGT and F03 respectively. The Ferrari F01 rears, while 4420 date coded are not PZ4 (i.e. older design) spec so I assume that explains the different tread pattern.

On a more fun note, it was a beautiful, if cool day, and we went for a spirited drive with the 612 and her Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4's on some nice, twisty and deserted roads. Modern performance winter tires are amazing.

Bill

I think the two tyres in your photo are the same tread pattern. It’s just that the one on the left is new and the one on the right worn.
 

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I think the two tyres in your photo are the same tread pattern. It’s just that the one on the left is new and the one on the right worn.
No, they are different, it's a totally different pattern with a nearly bald centre bit.

I see they are indeed from the same year - missed that. However I just checked my QPV and my X5. The X5 has the right hand tread, but an older tyre I have as spare has the left hand tread. The QPV has the left hand tread. The X5 are all run flat, but I don’t think that changes the tread pattern. The right hand is not worn, all 4 of mine show the same tread or rather lack of it.
 

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The one on the right is as used by people that complain about (lack of) grip.
The one on the left is used by people that don't complain, as they have plenty of grip. ;)

Always makes me laugh when people moan about their tyres, and then eventually change their worn tyres (of manufacturer X) to new tyres (by manufacturer Y), and then wax lyrical about how good manufacturer Y is!
 

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You do wonder why they changed it, as indeed the one on the left looks much better suited to wet conditions than the one on the right. And as they were both sold in the same territories it's not a dry country vs wet country spec difference. Must be the surprising result of turbulent water flow studies. The circular grooves on the one on the right seem to be a lot wider than the one on the left so that must compensate for the smaller side channels.