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Andyk

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Quite a few ex GTV owners on here...Seems to be the natural progression from Alfa to Maserati....
 

dem maser

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they going up....5k is needed for a good one, sold mine for 4k in 2010 with 35k!!!!! what a silly man I am!!
 

alfacorse

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very very rare here in Italy, have no idea in UK (probably there're much more).
Personally, of the 3.2 I don't like the huge 'nose'
 

Wattie

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very very rare here in Italy, have no idea in UK (probably there're much more).
Personally, of the 3.2 I don't like the huge 'nose'
I believe the Italian Govt are going after those with flash cars as they found they are almost always tax dodgers......this was an easy way to spot them! Ahhh, you can't keep a good financial crisis down.
Cheers Wattie
 

Felonious Crud

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I believe the Italian Govt are going after those with flash cars as they found they are almost always tax dodgers......this was an easy way to spot them! Ahhh, you can't keep a good financial crisis down.
Cheers Wattie

That's right - they targeted people with fancy cars and investigated their tax returns. Strangely, sales of fancy cars went through the floor.

Still, €4k a year... ****!
 

Parisien

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I thought they'd put up the top rate to €6000 pa for road tax, ie doubled it, led to the biggest sell off of high end cars in automotive history to every other LHD market....sad really


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hilts uk

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Love the colour, a real eye catcher. Its funny that Germans get tax breaks to own expensive cars hence the autobahns are full of big black mercs and BMW's but in Italian they want to bankrupt you for supporting the Italian car industry.
 

alfacorse

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but unfortunately this is the truth: they simply don't care about 'supporting' our nice Italian cars, they preferred to apply a tax which is making the state to loose a lot of money (as nobody is buying sport cars, and the ones who were owning them just sold them abroad) but, from the point of view of silly people, this tax goes 'against' rich people, so it's a vote-catcher.

Then there's the part related to investigation of the tax returns: when driving such a car you get stopped at each road control, they ask you why you are driving such an expensive car, which is your job and they put you on a 'target list' and they ask you to demonstrate that you have enough incomes to pay the car, pay the owning taxes and pay the maintenance of that car. If you're ok with the taxes declaration (as most of people is) you have nothing to scare, but the point is that it's your job to go to the court and demonstrate that you're ok, meaning that you have to pay a business-consultant to collect the documentation and go to the court in your representation.

In other words, it's an incredible situation that hopefully will improve one day, but at the moment is really a pain...

P.S. fortunately our good cars manufaturers such as Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati are selling very well worldwide, and don't really need the Italian market (a couple of years ago ferrari produced something like 5.000 cars, sales in Italy were 27 units:alan4:)
 

Parisien

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We go to Italy at least once a year, hardly ever see anything exotic on the road.

The mis-management of the country and abuse of certain taxpaying groups is crass to say the least.....but then I've never truly understood the Italian ways of doing things!!!!!



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casadalloro

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Lots of exotica just down the coast from our place at forte dei marmi crusing on a weekend evening... But then again most are probably driven by Russians i hear... In the shops they ask if we are Russian not English because of our pasty northern irish skin colour...!!
 

alfacorse

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agree, exoic cars in Italy are only visible in hi-level tourist areas, and most of times are driven by strangers...or rented.