Insulate Britain protests

dickygrace

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Where do we all stand on this? Being a car enthusiasts forum I’d expect no sympathy at all. If one were in the road in front of me I’d be dragging them far enough that they’d not get back before I had gone. Absolutely enrages me. Like insulation is the answer to the world’s CO2 issues.

 

Scaf

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My daughter has been stuck in traffic caused by these protests, delaying her getting to work as a nurse, adding 2 hours to her 12 hour shift.

I have no sympathy with and do not support such protests.

I don’t accept insulation in houses is the answer to this, they would be better off campaigning against imports of cr4p from across world.
 

sionie1

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Well done to the drivers, the only thing they didn't manage well was working together to make a gap. I've had some of my team caught for hours on the M25 so I dread to think of the cost of lost productivity. I'm all for looking at energy ratings, in fact I've been re-insulating older properties for years, but grinding major road networks to a halt and alienating a whole load of people who might just have agreed at one point seems counterproductive .
 

FIFTY

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Latest form of 'eco' terrorism

Why terrorism? It's not really protesting when they are causing more harm than good, diesel engines idling is horrendous for air pollution thus accelerating climate change and harming people's lungs.. plus the economic repercussions of delaying people who are on the road for work is yet another bullet into the corpse of this nation's economy

But hey why do these people care, looking at their average age they would be pretty set in life with their multiple property portfolios paying their pensions and keeping their grandchildren firmly in rental properties for generations to come...
 

Mattp

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I think they are a hypocritical bunch of expletives... I look at my environmental impact and think that Im relatively planet friendly while i see many of those protestors are well heeled middle class sorts with nice clothes and accessories, living lifestyles that are more wasteful than mine - although this is a sweeping generalisation from just seeing them on the TV and random interviews with them...

yes, we can do more to save the planet and yes there is a debate to be had, but... our attitude to the environment has been changing - for the better over the years this trend will I hope continue, the government cant wave a magic wand and suddenly bow to their pressure - even if it had historic plans in place which aligned - they couldnt be seen to capitulate to mob rule...

there are ways to make your voice heard and get your point across, alienating the public is not the way to do it...
 

Harry

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I’m worried that any nut job who has an axe to grind will see they can get away with just about anything. I also find it concerning that there are networks of loons who get a kick out of disrupting other people.
 

safrane

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Generally if you touch them you risk a claim of assault as you do not have the powers of a constable, however as this bunch have an injunction against them they are committing an arrestable offence, so in theory you can arrest them and hold them until the police arrive (but that could be for hours and defeat the reason you want them out of your way)
 

Markc

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Freaks! I especially loathe the old, retired ones. Nothing to do, living comfortably well why not go and fvck up everyone else’s working day and in the name of what, insulation ARE You FVCKING NUTS! I could go proper Jonathan Pie on this but instead I’m going for a lie down and have a cup of tea (not herbal). As said by all above: not the answer. Gah!
 

dickygrace

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Generally if you touch them you risk a claim of assault as you do not have the powers of a constable, however as this bunch have an injunction against them they are committing an arrestable offence, so in theory you can arrest them and hold them until the police arrive (but that could be for hours and defeat the reason you want them out of your way)

So could you make a citizen’s arrest and cable tie them to the fence at the side of the road? Is it assault to touch someone if your cause them no harm?
 

CatmanV2

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So could you make a citizen’s arrest and cable tie them to the fence at the side of the road? Is it assault to touch someone if your cause them no harm?

It certainly never used to be, but my training was some years ago. You are, however, opening the door to many tedious hours of ****.

And I'll just lob my blanket agreement with the general sentiment down here

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safrane

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So could you make a citizen’s arrest and cable tie them to the fence at the side of the road? Is it assault to touch someone if your cause them no harm?
If you use force, other than would be seen necessary by someone with the full facts, its assault.

And only in the areas where the court order is valid.
 

Harry

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I remember when we had the looting and rioting in Clapham Junction and the following evening groups of local chaps went out with hockey sticks. The police had been useless the night before, abandoning the area and shops had burnt down. I quite like the idea of the masses taking things into their own hands for the common good. I think most people are decent and don’t fall into the mob rule category. But if livelihoods (and hospital appointments) are at stake and the police aren’t getting involved then I’m happy for anyone to cable tie protestors to fences. Pour paint on their heads. Run over a glued hand.
 

FIFTY

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And I've done my but by not breeding, so I will eat meat and burn fuel till I die.

+1

A friend of a friend constantly looks down at my wife and I for our lifestyle... He has 3 kids and drives around in a 20 year old diesel thinking he's saving the planet while earning a pretty penny being one of the directors of a charity

The hypocrisy of these people!
 

Phil H

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If sufficient evidence is available for injunctions to be granted against the protesters why is there not sufficient evidence for the injunctions to be enforced - to the full extent of the law?
 

Hawk13

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It is astonishing what is tolerated under the banner of democracy and peaceful protest.

And the holier than thou attitude of many.

I am a patient man but unreasonable force would be gladly used by me.