Harry’s garage on classic and specialist performance cars after 2030

[slay]

Interesting video from Harry’s Garage, always like his presentation style started from when he first presented his Granturismo.

couldn’t agree with him more, we actually end up producing more CO2 driving electric cars, whereas the number of miles I do on my classic cars and my Stradale is nothing in comparison. Well, I guess that is why I still don’t see the point of switching.

It was not surprising that the number one reason that people switched to electric cars is actually Tax benefit! I have not met anyone yet who switched to electric cars to get better driving pleasure!

I will certainly be keepIng my Maserati ... V8 NA Engine with that fantastic sound, end of the line for sure from Maserati, passing down to my son as a valuable asset like a property maybe ;-)

 

[Felonious Crud]

Yes, I saw that. Another excellent Metcalfe video.

It also underlined why I plan to keep my Vantage. Well one of the reasons; the other is that I like it very much and have no interest in realising the depreciation.

 

[Zep]

I watched it too, although it might have been a different version.

My take away was that cars used sparingly, that are already built, there is not really an issue and that fuel will be available which is great. Also that currently (geddit) an electric car is about the same in terms of emissions as a fairly tame ICE car, but as the power network transformation and manufacturing efficiencies increase, this is likely to change making them far better, in emissions terms anyway.

 

[Rwc13]

I watched it too, although it might have been a different version.

My take away was that cars used sparingly, that are already built, there is not really an issue and that fuel will be available which is great. Also that currently (geddit) an electric car is about the same in terms of emissions as a fairly tame ICE car, but as the power network transformation and manufacturing efficiencies increase, this is likely to change making them far better, in emissions terms anyway.

Exactly, and he extolled the benefits of using an electric/hybrid car as a daily driver in terms of both cost and how much more luxurious (Rolls Royce like) they feel when running on battery power. Amazing how we can edit out the bits we don’t want to hear

 

[philw696]

Won't get a much smaller carbon footprint than my little Renault 4

 

[rivarama]

#Metcalf for transport minister!

 

[Felonious Crud]

I watched that Tim Burton Shmee chap's new video last night, where he takes his (very nice) Porscha Taycan to Birmingham and gets utterly pished off with the agro of charging the thing up, and how much time and money it costs to do it. Now, whilst buying an electric car when you don't have a charge point at home might not be the brightest idea ever, it helps to show what it would be like if, say, you went overnight to a hotel where you also couldn't charge your car.

CO2 considerations aside, cars and/or infrastructure are still not ready for my modest purposes yet.

In conclusion, driving a V12 Aston or V8 Maser is still better for the environment and your mental health than buying a Tesla and wearing a hairshirt.

 

[mjheathcote]

Plug in hybrids are getting better, but for sure mostly bought as company vehicles for the reduced tax. Recall having a discussion in a BMW showroom a couple of years ago over a new 7 series plug in, and the salesmen disagreeing with me that it would never get plugged in!

 

[Zep]

I watched that Tim Burton Shmee chap's new video last night, where he takes his (very nice) Porscha Taycan to Birmingham and gets utterly pished off with the agro of charging the thing up, and how much time and money it costs to do it. Now, whilst buying an electric car when you don't have a charge point at home might not be the brightest idea ever, it helps to show what it would be like if, say, you went overnight to a hotel where you also couldn't charge your car.

CO2 considerations aside, cars and/or infrastructure are still not ready for my modest purposes yet.

In conclusion, driving a V12 Aston or V8 Maser is still better for the environment and your mental health than buying a Tesla and wearing a hairshirt.

Absolutely, right now and electric car is and eccentric oddity unless you only go to the same places and can plug in there. I have charged my hybrid maybe 25 times away from home. Some hotels, a few car parks etc, but if I had to find a charge point or not get home it would be a mare.

But at some point it will have to change.

 

[Ewan]

I’ll be keeping my V8’s and V12’s, but these are only used very sparingly anyway, so have virtually no carbon footprint.
As a daily, I imagine I’ll go from my current hybrid Rangie to a whatever more efficient version they have out come 2030.
So, hardly any change really.

 

[mjheathcote]

One thing that wasn't taken into account in his figures is that the person who buys the 3 new EVs over 10 years, will be then passing on the second hand EV to a new owner, so the initial carbon footprint for the manufacture is then shared beyond the initial 3 years.