GT Engine Covers - Dipped in Carbon

Ashventini

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Looks very good to me and as you say much better than the OEM finish.

I am not sure about the badge thought, possibly a grill emblem might be my choice.
I thought of that, but the grill emblem wont fit in the centre section. Also the trident emblem is on the air intake on the top of the engine, so it wouldnt look right having 2 tridents "in line" in the engine bay IMHO. That why i went for the smaller rear 4200 badge. Ive seen it on other car pictures and liked it.
Glad you like the finish.
 

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I thought of that, but the grill emblem wont fit in the centre section. Also the trident emblem is on the air intake on the top of the engine, so it wouldnt look right having 2 tridents "in line" in the engine bay IMHO. That why i went for the smaller rear 4200 badge. Ive seen it on other car pictures and liked it.
Glad you like the finish.
I see what you mean …….
 

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Gazcw

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So here we are guys. Few pictures of them in the shop and back at home. Different lighting.... I would firstly say that the linear flow of the weaves isn't perfect in all areas, but i expected some deviation. I was actually worried that the weave pattern would be all over the shop because of the size of the panel and the complexity of the shapes, angles and openings. Gregg said it was a really difficult job, biggest engine panel he's ever done. In all honesty, i think they have turned our really well. As I said not perfect, but more than good enough for me and I can be a bit picky TBH. They look really good in the flesh. 1000% better than OEM dull plastic. They are super dark black, but do give off that graphite in certain angles. I haven't drilled and fitted the badge yet, simply placed it on to see what the result will look like.
Look good and better than plastic for sure. I expected the weave to pull as you say because of all the different shapes that are present plus the size of it.

I guess the price is £600 now he has struggled with one. :lol2:
 

Ashventini

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Look good and better than plastic for sure. I expected the weave to pull as you say because of all the different shapes that are present plus the size of it.

I guess the price is £600 now he has struggled with one. :lol2:
I'm quite shocked he got it as good as he did. I imagine its a nightmare to dip this in one sheet.. not a job for me for sure.. It will look fab when its on the car no doubt.
I told him that there were a few folk interested on the forum and he asked if id told you guys the price. I said unfortunately i had done. ;):) I said not to put the price up or by much... as it was known by you guys.. So any more than £50 more id suggest you remind him of what I paid.. I think he will be cool though.
 

Ashventini

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They look nice.

How stable will the film be so close to the engine?
He does engine covers for different cars frequently. So it wont be an issue. They have had 3 coats of clear lacquer also that will harden off. The covers don't sit too near any HOT section, so they should be fine for years to come. 100%. In fact I've seen some parts he's done for other cars such as an air intake manifold, which OK its sucking in cold air but sits directly on a hot cylinder head. So I'm guessing this stuff is actually very durable, more than one would think TBH. MKhydrodipping have a facebook page where you can see this stuff.
 

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He does engine covers for different cars frequently. So it wont be an issue. They have had 3 coats of clear lacquer also that will harden off. The covers don't sit too near any HOT section, so they should be fine for years to come. 100%. In fact I've seen some parts he's done for other cars such as an air intake manifold, which OK its sucking in cold air but sits directly on a hot cylinder head. So I'm guessing this stuff is actually very durable, more than one would think TBH. MKhydrodipping have a facebook page where you can see this stuff.
Does a lot of Aston Martin silver carbon I believe. Now how does the carbon bonnet look against it, dull and boring?
 

Ashventini

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Does a lot of Aston Martin silver carbon I believe. Now how does the carbon bonnet look against it, dull and boring?
Hi Gazcw. I have not placed it yet on the engine bay, but i know its going to look quite stunning in comparison to the inside bonnet. My bonnet isnt painted on the outside so its just on the underneath its matt finish we have. Im sure it will be fine as you dont tend to look upward at the carbon, more you look down at the engine only. The gloss finish matches the exterior carbon i have and also the gloss black wheels so i think it will compliment it all well. Yeah i agree, that underside of the bonnet isnt the nicest carbon look, but its functional vs cosmetic i suppose is the logic.
 

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Wow, I think that looks brilliant ! I've seen real carbon weave that's worse than that.

We all know its just a cosmetic thing, and as for those that say it's pointless as the use of carbon is meant to be for weight saving, most carbon parts on a Maserati are purely cosmetic anyway and actually weigh far more than the standard alternatives.

On my last GT, when I changed the dark chrome interior trim for carbon, I couldn't believe how much heavier the carbon was. About 3x heavier I reckon. The 'standard' trims are painted/coated plastic. The 'Carbon' trim pieces are carbon laid on metal ! So purely cosmetic.
 

Ashventini

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Wow, I think that looks brilliant ! I've seen real carbon weave that's worse than that.

We all know its just a cosmetic thing, and as for those that say it's pointless as the use of carbon is meant to be for weight saving, most carbon parts on a Maserati are purely cosmetic anyway and actually weigh far more than the standard alternatives.

On my last GT, when I changed the dark chrome interior trim for carbon, I couldn't believe how much heavier the carbon was. About 3x heavier I reckon. The 'standard' trims are painted/coated plastic. The 'Carbon' trim pieces are carbon laid on metal ! So purely cosmetic.
Insightful Sam.
 

Ashventini

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So perhaps the last update on this until they are fitted in a couple of weeks time. If anyone else is doing this in the future a few tips.
  1. If you are going to fix a badge choose it first before dipping. I was trying to decide what would like right when i dropped this off for dipping. After and When i decided on the old style metal rear emblem i know then i was going to have to drill after the dip. Not ideal, but its ok if you are careful.
  2. Hole position for drilling. I put a tiny bit of blue tack on the ends of the threaded pins (3 of them) and then actually fingered on a bit of raspberry jam (guys.. flavour is your choice. :D) because the cover isn't 100% flat and I wanted to get a "squidge" press onto the panel without having to rock it in any other direction. That then left 3 really nice jam imprints that I left to dry.
  3. Drilling the holes. I went in very small first and then went up to 4mm, then slight counter sink with large drill for clean finish. Oh BTW if you are drilling on finished lacquer, do it quite soon after it's painted so that its not too hard and "chips" when drilling. Mine was fine after 1 day.
  4. Badge fits in a perfect position but is NOT attached yet. I don't want to fix it on and tighten it up as it will imprint in the soft/hardening lacquer. Will do all this in a couple of weeks when it goes back on the car.

Hope this helps anyone else that may do it. Will share update photos with it all in place.

Ash
 

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So perhaps the last update on this until they are fitted in a couple of weeks time. If anyone else is doing this in the future a few tips.
  1. If you are going to fix a badge choose it first before dipping. I was trying to decide what would like right when i dropped this off for dipping. After and When i decided on the old style metal rear emblem i know then i was going to have to drill after the dip. Not ideal, but its ok if you are careful.
  2. Hole position for drilling. I put a tiny bit of blue tack on the ends of the threaded pins (3 of them) and then actually fingered on a bit of raspberry jam (guys.. flavour is your choice. :D) because the cover isn't 100% flat and I wanted to get a "squidge" press onto the panel without having to rock it in any other direction. That then left 3 really nice jam imprints that I left to dry.
  3. Drilling the holes. I went in very small first and then went up to 4mm, then slight counter sink with large drill for clean finish. Oh BTW if you are drilling on finished lacquer, do it quite soon after it's painted so that its not too hard and "chips" when drilling. Mine was fine after 1 day.
  4. Badge fits in a perfect position but is NOT attached yet. I don't want to fix it on and tighten it up as it will imprint in the soft/hardening lacquer. Will do all this in a couple of weeks when it goes back on the car.
Hope this helps anyone else that may do it. Will share update photos with it all in place.

Ash
Or buy a copy badge from alibaba or eBay as they will already have laser cut 3m installed and you can just stick it on. ;)
 

Ashventini

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Or buy a copy badge from alibaba or eBay as they will already have laser cut 3m installed and you can just stick it on. ;)
i considered that but they are 340mm (newer size) which is too wide in my view as It only just fits. And i didnt want it de-bonding if the glue was **** on a slightly even surface. ;)