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gb-gta

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The problem is, being called out as a racist is seen as some horrific insult, but if you are using racial terms or singling out people due to their race, you re being racist.
For absolute clarity, this is the definition of racist:
"prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized"

The great news is, you can change. All you have to do is think about what you are saying. Am I being prejudiced against people due to their racial group?
If you are in doubt, just don't talk about race, it's that simple.

If you get a term wrong and someone corrects you, apologise, and try not to use it again. I'm not persecuting anyone for using the wrong term, nor am I permanently branding someone, I'm simply pointing out what shouldn't be said. We all have a responsibility to make this world a nice and friendly place, I don't think it's much to ask.
I will persecute people for choosing to ignore however as they think that they can continue to use these racial slurs, which indicates to me that they think they are somehow better then the oppressed race, which indicates to me that they are being prejudiced against people based on their race, which is, as posted above, exactly the definition of racism.





Anyway, at this point, I've tried to do my bit and educate folk a little, and I'm pulling out of this one. I don't feel like I've won anything (in fact it seem clear I haven't) but my words are falling on deaf ears so I'll go spend my time elsewhere.

If you desperately want to continue this conversation with me, drop me a pm, and I'll reply eventually.

It seems I picked the wrong night to visit the form for the first time in a few weeks!

Believe me, I desperately don’t want to continue this conversation!
I broke my own rule by joining it with just one post, as I said!

I’m pretty sure I’ve not said anything that could offend anyone on the internet with regard to race

I must say though, in your first sentence, someone calling you a racist is actually horrific, when you are not racist, because you may have inadvertently used the wrong, currently not allowed this week, words.

Anyway, like you, I’m out. I knew I shouldn’t have replied to this thread.
 

philw696

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Simple, don't disagree with your manager. They're there to manage you, not the other way around.
If your opinion mattered you'd be sat at their desk and they at yours.

There's no respect for authority these days...
Sorry Dan in my profession 40 years on the tools I have never wanted to be a Manager as most are Clowns and can't do what I can do.
When I worked for Ford in NZ I was earning more than the Service Manager.
 

Dan!

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Sorry Dan in my profession 40 years on the tools I have never wanted to be a Manager as most are Clowns and can't do what I can do.
When I worked for Ford in NZ I was earning more than the Service Manager.

Morning Phil,

This is a lovely example of how the written word sometimes struggles to get across the meaning or point intended, and can trigger the wrong response from someone that reads it in a different tone to that which it was written.

The 3 dots at the end of the post are meant to indicate sarcasm.
 

philw696

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Morning Dan and it's been a long time mate.
I knew I shouldn't have started on this thread first :)
 

conaero

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A final word before I close this thread:

Zep and I are in discussion this weekend how to get this forum feeling the love again.

I must admit I’ve taken my foot off the gas due to Sportsitalia becoming all consuming.

As previously mentioned, the forum self moderates but clearly intervention is now required.

For some time now I have not really got on with the direction threads have taken but we had a vote on this a while back as we did with asking the ladies if they had issue with the girlie pics so I allowed it to continue.

Cars have been covered already, I get that, so SM has tried to combine that with social discussion to keep the community moving forward as one.

Remember, the whole reason SM is here is due to over moderation by the old Maserati forum. This is why we don’t over moderate.
 
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conaero

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Rossly moved:

As I typed out my response to the Goodbye thread but it was closed before I hit "Reply"

This has to have been the most disappointing thread in this Forum's history.

From the issue.
To the fact that a serious issue turned into mickey taking in a couple of pages.
To ignoring the issue.
To ridiculing the issue.

Poor show.

If everyone's opinion is valid, then surely Oneball made a valid point.

This forum has plenty of old white men. That's true.
Many of them Unsurprisingly hold old white men views.
Some of them have too much time on their hands and are keyboard warriors.
 

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Any further posts that are posted in other threads about this matter will simply be deleted whilst a moderator response is considered.
 
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