Fiat 127 Abarth Historic Rally Car.

Oneball

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I remember the Lada challenge too. Problem is you need something odd as these events like Goodwood, Mille Miglia are now the preserve of the tw@ts in tweed caps taking Instagram selfies while their paid mechanics clean the windscreen.

I was at scrutinerring at Oulton Park and there was a Cobra infront of me, what they go for now, a million? No sign of the owner just “his” team. So I was having a look around and could tell straight away it would pass as the belts are mismatched.

Cobra gets to the front of the line and scrutineer asks to see the signing on chit. Not there, driver not turned up. Wait around 10 minutes for the idiot to arrive. Low and behold “your belts are mismatched”.
He goes off on one about how important he is and how rare the car is. FFS put the champagne down stop pretending you’ve just arrived from the grouse shoot or had your arm up a cow’s bottom and put some effort into your car!
 

Phil the Brit

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I remember the Lada challenge too. Problem is you need something odd as these events like Goodwood, Mille Miglia are now the preserve of the tw@ts in tweed caps taking Instagram selfies while their paid mechanics clean the windscreen.

I was at scrutinerring at Oulton Park and there was a Cobra infront of me, what they go for now, a million? No sign of the owner just “his” team. So I was having a look around and could tell straight away it would pass as the belts are mismatched.

Cobra gets to the front of the line and scrutineer asks to see the signing on chit. Not there, driver not turned up. Wait around 10 minutes for the idiot to arrive. Low and behold “your belts are mismatched”.
He goes off on one about how important he is and how rare the car is. FFS put the champagne down stop pretending you’ve just arrived from the grouse shoot or had your arm up a cow’s bottom and put some effort into your car!

Just curious, why can't you have mismatched belts please?
 

Oneball

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Just curious, why can't you have mismatched belts please?

It’s just the safety regs. They have to be a set as manufactured, they’re all serial coded and have a date on them. If it’s a six point harness all six legs must be as manufactured. Different manufacturers have different buckles etc so you would want someone fitting a Sabelt strap into a Willians buckle

These weren’t even the same colour, one of the shoulder straps was blue the other 5 were red.
 

Phil the Brit

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It’s just the safety regs. They have to be a set as manufactured, they’re all serial coded and have a date on them. If it’s a six point harness all six legs must be as manufactured. Different manufacturers have different buckles etc so you would want someone fitting a Sabelt strap into a Willians buckle

These weren’t even the same colour, one of the shoulder straps was blue the other 5 were red.

So, forgive me for labouring the point but when I was doing rallies both here and abroad, different belts were fitted to co drives seat and drivers seat. My wife, who co drove could not use a five point harness so she had a four pointer and I had a five pointer. Is that not allowed now?
 

CatmanV2

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So, forgive me for labouring the point but when I was doing rallies both here and abroad, different belts were fitted to co drives seat and drivers seat. My wife, who co drove could not use a five point harness so she had a four pointer and I had a five pointer. Is that not allowed now?

one of the shoulder straps was blue the other 5 were red.

It seems this is 'mismatched on the same set' as it were. Although not quite sure where 6 shoulder straps would be? ;)

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Oneball

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So, forgive me for labouring the point but when I was doing rallies both here and abroad, different belts were fitted to co drives seat and drivers seat. My wife, who co drove could not use a five point harness so she had a four pointer and I had a five pointer. Is that not allowed now?

That’s what I was trying to explain. Co driver and driver can have different belts but each individual’s harness has to be a set. The driver’s set in the cobra looked like this.

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