DaveT
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Ferrari Team Orders
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Superb, always chuckle at sniff petrol
Now lets see what Ferrari International Assistance, sorry that would be the FIA, say at the World Motor Sport Council meeting to which the stewards have referred this
Who thinks the ex Ferrari and current FIA president Jean Todd will will take this further in the meeting which just happens to be in Italy about 3 days before the Monza GP in September ?
Am I being cynical again
LOL
Now lets see what Ferrari International Assistance, sorry that would be the FIA, say at the World Motor Sport Council meeting to which the stewards have referred this
Who thinks the ex Ferrari and current FIA president Jean Todd will will take this further in the meeting which just happens to be in Italy about 3 days before the Monza GP in September ?
Am I being cynical again
LOL
mowlas
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So greedy and so unneccessary...
Any further punishment handed to the Ferrari team should be designed to cause the decision to publicly backfire on Stefano Domenicali or whoever made it. Deducting all constructors and driver's championship points from this race would seem the right thing to do.
Any further punishment handed to the Ferrari team should be designed to cause the decision to publicly backfire on Stefano Domenicali or whoever made it. Deducting all constructors and driver's championship points from this race would seem the right thing to do.
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Ok, so the way it was done was not, let's say very smart...
but this has happened, and is still happening at every team up and down pit-lane.
it's a team sport, and in my opinion the team should decide what to do with it players.
So they have been fined for breaking a rule and summoned before the council...
now they should be left alone to get on with trying to win a championship.
If any further sanctions are imposed, my guess is that Ferrari will say, enough is enough
and leave the sport...I for one will be very unhappy if that happens.
but this has happened, and is still happening at every team up and down pit-lane.
it's a team sport, and in my opinion the team should decide what to do with it players.
So they have been fined for breaking a rule and summoned before the council...
now they should be left alone to get on with trying to win a championship.
If any further sanctions are imposed, my guess is that Ferrari will say, enough is enough
and leave the sport...I for one will be very unhappy if that happens.
DaveT
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I may well be in a minority here but F1 nowadays leaves me absolutely cold and has done for a number of years.
No overtaking to speak of except in pit stops and unless we get a bit of rain then generally a procession after an occasional bit of rough and tumble over the first 2/3 laps.
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Much prefer the Tin top racing where there's generally plenty of action in BTCC/WTC or even the bikes.
Oh and if Ferrari leave F1 any time soon I'll eat my hat - with chips and tomato sauce on the side. They have been fined and lost point etc before and not gone so I don't see it happening now.
Rant over.
No overtaking to speak of except in pit stops and unless we get a bit of rain then generally a procession after an occasional bit of rough and tumble over the first 2/3 laps.
:Much prefer the Tin top racing where there's generally plenty of action in BTCC/WTC or even the bikes.
Oh and if Ferrari leave F1 any time soon I'll eat my hat - with chips and tomato sauce on the side. They have been fined and lost point etc before and not gone so I don't see it happening now.
Rant over.
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I was mad as a box of frogs yesterday when watching the Grand Prix and wanted them hung drawn and quartered for spoiling my Sunday afternoon viewing....But they have been fined (petty cash for Ferrari) and that should be the end of it......Do I think they should have been shot at dawn...yes...But as Enzo said it's done now.....Said it on the other thread though..Dont you love Eddie Jordon...He doesn't give a **** what he says and to who...Love it.
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Do I like Alonso - No I ******* don't.
Is he a good driver - Begrudgingly yes, possibly even a great one.
Do I like Massa - Yes I do. He was robbed of the world championship by... hmmmmm let me cast my mind back to Singapore 2008? Oh and for who's benefit was that little escapade - ah yes, one Fernando ******* Alonso.
Do Ferrari put their drivers personal interests above that of the team - No they don't. Never have, never will.
Do they want the manufacturers title - Course they do. Top of their to-do list.
Do they want Alonso in the frame for the drivers championship - Added bonus.
Should team orders be allowed - The spirit of competition makes me want to say no, but realistically probably yes. It goes on (Singapore was the most drastic demonstration), and this weekends events show that the teams aren't too concerned to flaunt this flawed rule.
The days of the privateer / gentleman racer and self financed team are long gone. Huge amounts of money are involved, and for Ferrari in particular they have pinned their entire reputation to the F1 mast. The Ferrari brand is everything, the drivers are just bus drivers. (probably an over-exaggeration, but in essence true)
Should they have issued team orders on Sunday - Actually no. Massa was the slower Ferrari and Alonso would have taken him legitimately. A team order clearly stating no contact would have done the same job, and would have been thrilling to watch. Two professional drivers racing against each other, but ultimately for the benefit of their team.
IMHO.
Is he a good driver - Begrudgingly yes, possibly even a great one.
Do I like Massa - Yes I do. He was robbed of the world championship by... hmmmmm let me cast my mind back to Singapore 2008? Oh and for who's benefit was that little escapade - ah yes, one Fernando ******* Alonso.
Do Ferrari put their drivers personal interests above that of the team - No they don't. Never have, never will.
Do they want the manufacturers title - Course they do. Top of their to-do list.
Do they want Alonso in the frame for the drivers championship - Added bonus.
Should team orders be allowed - The spirit of competition makes me want to say no, but realistically probably yes. It goes on (Singapore was the most drastic demonstration), and this weekends events show that the teams aren't too concerned to flaunt this flawed rule.
The days of the privateer / gentleman racer and self financed team are long gone. Huge amounts of money are involved, and for Ferrari in particular they have pinned their entire reputation to the F1 mast. The Ferrari brand is everything, the drivers are just bus drivers. (probably an over-exaggeration, but in essence true)
Should they have issued team orders on Sunday - Actually no. Massa was the slower Ferrari and Alonso would have taken him legitimately. A team order clearly stating no contact would have done the same job, and would have been thrilling to watch. Two professional drivers racing against each other, but ultimately for the benefit of their team.
IMHO.
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couldn't agree more Miles, F1 p1sses me off so much, i couldn't tell you.
mowlas
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I think it would take a lot more for Ferrari to pull put of F1. it doesn't make sense for where the brand is right now.
Of course F1 is about greatness of the cars but it's equally (and more thrillingly) about greatness of the driver. With this sort of cynical b*ll*cks it erodes half of the raison d'être and should not be allowed. I love Ferrari but this sort of management decision is ultimately bad for the sport and should be stomped on. No team should be above the sport.
Of course F1 is about greatness of the cars but it's equally (and more thrillingly) about greatness of the driver. With this sort of cynical b*ll*cks it erodes half of the raison d'être and should not be allowed. I love Ferrari but this sort of management decision is ultimately bad for the sport and should be stomped on. No team should be above the sport.