EV and advice from any users please!

mjheathcote

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Latest reports are arson.

That happens, probably an old or underrated cable.
Probably both.
But we are being pushed to EVs and ASHPs
The infrastructure isn't up to it, well, certainly in older established communities, with new housing growth tacked on the side, like where we are.
 

SE_123

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With the chat of EV depreciation and people not wanting to take them as PX, I just looked at the difference between WBNC and what they are listed on autotrader for.

Tesla Model 3 Performance (2021) - listed on auto trader for £35k-38k

WBAC will offer £24k for them - I guess this gives a sense of what they change hands for within the trade.

Since 2021 is close to the end of the normal 3 yr lease cycle - I think there is about to be a quick fall coming on the prices.


As a comparison, Tycans are around £45k on WBAC vs 57k (ish) as listed.
 

midlifecrisis

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I'm presently on an island and EVs make sense, they only do 200 miles a month so charge up once a fortnight for a BMW i3. Obviously they'll need a decent car when off the island.
 

P R

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About 6 weeks into "owning" the Merc EQA now. Initial thoughts, its loaded with tech, its smooth, and very cheap to run (1300 miles in first month, cost of around £35, all charging at home).

The one thing that is disappointing is the range. I was expecting this anyway, but its rated at 319 miles. Currently its showing around 240 miles on 100% charge. However if you use the battery as recommended (between 80% and 20%) that gives an effective range of about 144 miles, which is less than half of the quoted. For us its not a great deal as 1. We have the Maser still and 2. Her commute is 50 miles round trip.

So overall still makes financial sense to us, but I wouldnt want to be paying full price and I wouldnt want it as my only car..
 
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About 6 weeks into "owning" the Merc EQA now. Initial thoughts, its loaded with tech, its smooth, and very cheap to run (1300 miles in first month, cost of around £35, all charging at home).

The one thing that is disappointing is the range. I was expecting this anyway, but its rated at 319 miles. Currently its showing around 240 miles on 100% charge. However if you use the battery as recommended (between 80% and 20%) that gives an effective range of about 144 miles, which is less than half of the quoted. For us its not a great deal as 1. We have the Maser still and 2. Her commute is 50 miles round trip.

So overall still makes financial sense to us, but I wouldnt want to be paying full price and I wouldnt want it as my only car..
Seeing a percentage wise similar decline in the EQE, full range down ~20% vs summer range, which in itself was at par with wltp range. Was around 370 miles, down to around 300.

Still enjoying the confort and silence for daily and long distance driving.
 

Wack61

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I opted out 4 years ago, and the Mrs has an option to opt out too.
However having to pay basically no BIK for having an EV, getting a new £45K car, and obviously cheap running costs for private mileage, in this case taking an EV makes sense.
Anyone not in an an electric company car must be crazy , can't remember the exact figures but the BIK on a 50k audi was something like £7000 for a 40% taxpayer , on a 50K tesla it was about £700

Tesla know the writing is on the wall for the low BIK which is why the S & X are no longer available in RHD
 

P R

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Seeing a percentage wise similar decline in the EQE, full range down ~20% vs summer range, which in itself was at par with wltp range. Was around 370 miles, down to around 300.

Still enjoying the confort and silence for daily and long distance driving.
Interesting to see that. We nearly went for the EQE as the deals on them were great. Would have meant 2 x 5m saloons though so went for the EQA instead..
 

gb-gta

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Anyone not in an an electric company car must be crazy , can't remember the exact figures but the BIK on a 50k audi was something like £7000 for a 40% taxpayer , on a 50K tesla it was about £700

Tesla know the writing is on the wall for the low BIK which is why the S & X are no longer available in RHD
Everyone can have a company car now it seems. Used to be just the bosses and the ones who actually travelled for the buisness!
Still surprises me how the govt allows it, with the EV BIK meaning govt pays 20/40% of someone’s private car lease cost, to foreign car companies, just for basic commuting.
 

zagatoes30

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We were debating EVs again this weekend and were wondering based on the fact that useable lifespan seems to be 10 maybe 15 years at best, primarily down to the batteries, then there are going to be a lot these needing to be disposed of in a relatively short time. Now I assume the car bits can be recycled as normal but those Lithium Ion batteries are a different thing. From a bit of googling it seems recycling them is not as straight forward as you might expect due to the nature of the way they are built, lots of small cells, and the chemicals they are made up of which seem to like to explode. So will this leave us piles of useless batteries that will need to be stored safely until a safe cost effective recycling process is found?

Sounds a bit like the nuclear industry, limitless cheap power but with a waste issue for generations to come, doesn't sound very "Green or Ecologically sound"
 

Wack61

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It does look like the market will be flooded with used EVs as many of the motability cars come off the three year contracts

If these start hitting 10- 12k I'm in , I like quirky cars and this being a honda is probably a reasonable bet

July 21 cars onwards came with a 5 year warranty , wonder if there's a performance chip for it

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