Electric Conversion - Would You?
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COPPER SPLIT CONCENTRIC CABLE PVC – CURRENT CARRYING CAPACITY THE ABOVE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH 18TH EDITION OF IET WIRING REGULATIONS NUMBER OF CORES NOMINAL CROSS SECTIONAL AREA (MM2 ) CONTINUOUS CURRENT RATING CLIPPED DIRECT AMPS IN CONDUIT ON WALL AMPS IN AIR AMPS 1 4 41 37 42 1 16 99 88 100 1 25 120 110 129 3 35 130 117 135 COPPER SPLIT CONCENTRIC CABLE PVC – ELECTRICAL CHARACTERISTICS THE ABOVE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH 18TH EDITION OF IET WIRING REGULATIONS NOMINAL CROSS SECTIONAL AREA (MM2 ) MAXIMUM DC RESISTANCE OF CONDUCTOR AT 20°C - PHASE 35mm 130 amps 25mm 120 amps 16mm 99 amps they cook over that
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So there’s not a lot of spare capacity if you’re trying to charge 3 cars then?
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Well, 2.3kw is isn’t 200w and 26 hours for 100% isn’t overnight for 3%. Now I could point out that when you have an EV you always leave home with a full tank of electrons and so the likelihood of having charge from empty is quite low. But I appreciate that that’s a balanced view you don’t want to hear.
All this proves to me is that if you own a caravan, and don’t want to be bothered to got somewhere with a proper charging point, then an EV is a bad choice due to the caravan club being electrical tight arses. But to be fair, going on a holiday where emptying a tank of your own poo is one of the activities isn’t high in my list of priorities either. So it takes all sorts.
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The initial post I quoted was a motorhome with a 120 mile range so it is quite likely you'd arrive with a low battery , being a 3.5t van I'd guess it'll have a 100kwh battery so 44 hours to charge full or 11 hours to 25% or 30 miles which might get you to a fast charger
So back to my original post , utterly useless
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You have absolutely no evidence to support the suggestion that a camper with 120 miles of range would have a 100kwh battery. What Nayf was referring to was a classic conversion, which patently wouldn’t have space for such a device. Anyway. Whatever. If you want to cherry pick details to support your view, that’s your look out. Don’t let facts weigh you down.
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Well Said Sir.
Stay Strong and keep the faith everyone.
Nibby
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Yeah pick a pile of dog **** up just after she’s come out the nail bar
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QUOTE="Nayf, post: 906678, member: 7284"]
I can see the point there. That car has always been about style and looks, and though the engines have character they are not the defining part.
Range is the problem. While Tesla/Audi can get useable range (I get 300 out of my 3.2 V6 Alfa, that’s my metric), these conversions - from what I have seen - struggle to get into three figures. Other than pottering around the local area, what’s the point?
I saw a camper with a range of 120 miles the other day… what a great holiday…
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86kwh batteries
I commented on the last sentence, an electric camper van with a 120 mile range that takes 30+ hours to fully charge on campsite power is useless
Cars are one thing but if the future is electric they're going to have to do a lot better than that , especially when the 120 miles will be lab miles , actual miles will be less., and lets not forget , a standard camper new is 70k-80k built on a 30k van
and the range , which is unlikely to be at 3.5t
for me to get to Dover from here in an esprinter would be 4-5 charges if I wanted to be on the boat fully charged.
Electric cars might be the future for those that can afford them but nobody on minimum wage driving a 10 year old fiesta is buying a 30k EV and if they do get down to 10 year old fiesta money you'll be lucky to get to Asda and back
your comment about the toilets also makes me laugh , campsites have toilets, I've not reached the point where I can't make it , yet
I wouldn't convert a classic car into an electric one.
A Classic car is the whole package of noise, age, smell (is it me or do all the Biturbos smell the same?), lack of perfection by todays' standards. For me, the AM475 of my 2.24v is at the center of the experience.
Same for my 1982 RX-7, take the Wankel away and what would it be left with?
Having owned a Prius since 2005, we've bought another one (same series 2 type!) in 2017. To get you from A to B it's still a great choice. It cost me less then the equivalent of 4000 GBP and does (real numbers) 63 MPG on my daily commute. I spend about 1800 EU per year in gasoline, these numbers are very hard to beat by any other modern car.
Now as we may need to change an old Lancia y with something modern (used), I'm thorn between a BMW i3 with REX or a Mazda RX-8
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A Classic car is the whole package of noise, age, smell (is it me or do all the Biturbos smell the same?), lack of perfection by todays' standards. For me, the AM475 of my 2.24v is at the center of the experience.
Same for my 1982 RX-7, take the Wankel away and what would it be left with?
Having owned a Prius since 2005, we've bought another one (same series 2 type!) in 2017. To get you from A to B it's still a great choice. It cost me less then the equivalent of 4000 GBP and does (real numbers) 63 MPG on my daily commute. I spend about 1800 EU per year in gasoline, these numbers are very hard to beat by any other modern car.
Now as we may need to change an old Lancia y with something modern (used), I'm thorn between a BMW i3 with REX or a Mazda RX-8
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How's anything going to work if, like our neighbours, you have 4 cars (mum, dad, two 20-something kids) who all go out to work in the morning and drive several miles to and from their work and you all have leccy cars?
I guess you'll have to watch Corrie on your mobile in the evening. In the dark.
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Only if you have 5G as your router won't be working either...... Treadmill dynamo anyone?
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The future is electric cars…. If you can afford to run them!
www.mirror.co.uk
Mercedes owner horrified after being quoted £15,000 for new car battery
Retried driver Ranjit Singh was left stunned after he was quoted £15,000 for a new battery for the Mercedes Benz he bought second-hand just four years ago for £27,000
www.mirror.co.uk
stikey
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good job I am only 40 miles to Hinckley power station i have six motors on my drive to charge son daughter mrs and 2 vans plus the mas
I think i will wedge a Tesla in to my main fuse cut out that should hold under load
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There is potential (no pun intended) for yet more pain:The future is electric cars…. If you can afford to run them!
Mercedes owner horrified after being quoted £15,000 for new car battery
Retried driver Ranjit Singh was left stunned after he was quoted £15,000 for a new battery for the Mercedes Benz he bought second-hand just four years ago for £27,000
Electric Car Battery Prices Rise As Lithium Costs Soar | Silicon UK Tech
Batteries for electric vehicles see price hikes in China, in spite of expected economies of scale, as costs of lithium and other raw materials jump
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The future is electric cars…. If you can afford to run them!
Mercedes owner horrified after being quoted £15,000 for new car battery
Retried driver Ranjit Singh was left stunned after he was quoted £15,000 for a new battery for the Mercedes Benz he bought second-hand just four years ago for £27,000
There is another option for those on a budget
