Ceramic Brakes Anyone?

mjheathcote

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Complete fantasy maybe, but I wonder if the GT hubs would fit the 42/GS, so these brakes could be fitted with GT wheels to suit...
 

rockits

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I don't get all this carbon ceramic disc mullarky. Evo did an F Type test between stock vented steel ones and the optional carbon ceramics. The steels had the same stopping power just not over a long sustained period. Basically worthwhile for a tracked car but for the road....pointless.
 

rockits

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Can't disagree with that but some price to pay for the looks you can half see.

You can buy a nice car or two for the same money.
 

BennyD

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Not quite true; I ran out of brakes in the Alps on the Modena trip. I pulled in with smoke pouring off the wheels and pads and the discs were black. Even the 4200s are chunky buggers and they take a lot of dragging down from even vaguely anti-social speeds.
 

Paul - H

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For the road...waste of time, need to stomp on them so much to get the heat on them to get real stopping power, not at all progressive
 

rockits

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Not quite true; I ran out of brakes in the Alps on the Modena trip. I pulled in with smoke pouring off the wheels and pads and the discs were black. Even the 4200s are chunky buggers and they take a lot of dragging down from even vaguely anti-social speeds.
Well you were track driving on the road effectively so I can see how that was happen

Maybe you need to get some carbon ceramics on Frankie for 10k!
 

outrun

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For the road...waste of time, need to stomp on them so much to get the heat on them to get real stopping power, not at all progressive

I don't agree. I'm pleased to have them for spirited drives around Scotland's lochs. Less fade on a 150 miles run is a good thing in my book. Progressive feel is good and they warm quickly.
 

DavidL

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I had them on a 996t. Worked fine but i dreaded anything or anyone going near them for risk of damage. Can you imagine the conversation with the tyre fitters when you asked for a few thousand to replace a disk they had chipped? Give me steel ones anyway. No brake dust mind so the wheels stayed shiny!
 

azapa

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Yes, your wheels stay nice and clean ;) More seriously though, they do really inspire confidence, and that's what brakes should do. I did not rate them much before trying them, but now can't imagine having a car of this performance without them.

In the used car market, it's possible to get them for a fraction of what the original specifier paid to tick that option box, so why not? Not referring to Maserati here, but other high performance brands.
 

Paul - H

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The only real benefit I can see is the reduction in unsprung weight, if you do track days on a regular basis then it's probably worth it, I've seen 100k miles out of a set that's used on road & track so again worth it in that scenario.

Ferrari have I believe fitted as standard since 2008 (?), not that many are actually driven much, but at least they have some feel to them, the Mercedes fitment is not very good at all.
 

FF1078

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The only real benefit I can see is the reduction in unsprung weight, if you do track days on a regular basis then it's probably worth it, I've seen 100k miles out of a set that's used on road & track so again worth it in that scenario.

Ferrari have I believe fitted as standard since 2008 (?), not that many are actually driven much, but at least they have some feel to them, the Mercedes fitment is not very good at all.

On my old GT/s it was very easy to warm the brakes up too much and I'm not a fast driver with a nearly 2 ton car so for me these are a no brainer even though the cost is quite high. Clean wheels and they last for much longer than std ones. My old car has 33000 miles on original brakes but they'll need changing soon, I was pleased with how they'd lasted but ceramic would last probably 3 times that.
 

Felonious Crud

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On my old GT/s it was very easy to warm the brakes up too much and I'm not a fast driver with a nearly 2 ton car so for me these are a no brainer even though the cost is quite high. Clean wheels and they last for much longer than std ones. My old car has 33000 miles on original brakes but they'll need changing soon, I was pleased with how they'd lasted but ceramic would last probably 3 times that.

From a purely financial perspective you'd want them to last at least 10x as long to cover the increased replacement cost. :smile: