Cars that should do well over the next 10years

[Lavazza]

I get quite conflicted with this sort of thing.

I believe you can get good cars at the lower budget ranges, quite often with relatively higher mileage (nothing crazy), and having had a few owners.

I like to use and enjoy my cars, so not buying super low mileage examples makes better sense to me.

I know an investment means not putting many miles on and buying the most low mileage, low owner, rare examples, but not using them is such a waste.

If I can enjoy a car, and not lose too much or make a bit, then that's a good result.

 

[rivarama]

Edit. I did see a Strad at £50k last year. When inspected it required considerable spend.

2 strads for sale below 50 at the mo 1 on AT and 1 on PH higher mileage but it’s an asking price. No idea about condition.
As for 550 - results from auctions and what Indys I have spoken to tell me, show that around £60k gets you a 50-60k miles model. I also bought a 550 12months ago

 

[rivarama]

I get quite conflicted with this sort of thing.

I believe you can get good cars at the lower budget ranges, quite often with relatively higher mileage (nothing crazy), and having had a few owners.

I like to use and enjoy my cars, so not buying super low mileage examples makes better sense to me.

I know an investment means not putting many miles on and buying the most low mileage, low owner, rare examples, but not using them is such a waste.

If I can enjoy a car, and not lose too much or make a bit, then that's a good result.

I am there too. Although I would absolutely spend good money on a lower mileage car if it was a collector, I prefer saving 20% on price for a higher mileage yet sorted car, and use that price difference in servicing the car for the 3-4years ahead - and I would probably not feel bad putting more miles on the higher mileage car.

 

[safrane]

How many will dissappear under the next scrappage scheme?

 

[zagatoes30]

Although I agree broadly, there are still mysteries out there. How do you explain that most GS are still trading around £20k, and MC victories aren’t selling above £40k and that you start seeing stradale sub £50K?
It really beats me.

That is easy Maseratis just aren't on many peoples lustability list, they are rare but other than us in the know not on that list of cars that most people wanted in the day

 

[rivarama]

One more to add to the list BMW E9 3.0 CS (can be found early £30s... obviously not the CSI)

 

[Hawk13]

No such thing as an investment car IMO. Even if it goes up in value, very, very few will actually yield a profit when you take into account storage, maintenance / servicing, insurance etc ..... and that is without factoring in the value of money.

And given that the market is so fickle (who would ever have thought sh!tbox Escorts and Capris would command such silly prices?) there is absolutely no predicting future prices.

My advice - Buy what you like and drive it.

 

[dickygrace]

2 strads for sale below 50 at the mo 1 on AT and 1 on PH higher mileage but it’s an asking price. No idea about condition.
As for 550 - results from auctions and what Indys I have spoken to tell me, show that around £60k gets you a 50-60k miles model. I also bought a 550 12months ago

I see the one 58k mile Stradale which has been for sale for 2 months (most don’t think it is good value even though it is cheap), not sure of the other one you mention. Cheapest 550’s on AT & PH are £90k. As many have alluded to, and I must clear this up, as I often tell customers; the price of the car may go up, but that’s still a long way away from making money on a car. We all know the costs involved at purchase and sale time, and all the rest in between.

 

[Nayf]

I have a feeling the 3200 may struggle for a while as the non-specialist trade are petrified of them and the warranty implications. That’s more important than you might imagine - as that’s what helps foster the market.
It’s the same for TVRs, but they stand a better chance due to the whole British thing.
The rebooting of Maserati Classiche may help, it may not...

 

[hashluck]

I see the one 58k mile Stradale which has been for sale for 2 months (most don’t think it is good value even though it is cheap), not sure of the other one you mention. Cheapest 550’s on AT & PH are £90k. As many have alluded to, and I must clear this up, as I often tell customers; the price of the car may go up, but that’s still a long way away from making money on a car. We all know the costs involved at purchase and sale time, and all the rest in between.

I can only assume counting the same Strad twice?

 

[Wattie]

10 years eh.
I’d be thinking, Maserati, Aston, McLaren, Morgan and other niche guys.......all gone.
Electric will be a big leveller......the soul will be gone and so will a lot of “soul followers”.

New money won’t miss what they never had.

For that reason, the classics valuable now will be more so in a decade......Ferrari’s, a few old Porsche, Gullwings, Aston Bonds.

 

[outrun]

I see the one 58k mile Stradale which has been for sale for 2 months (most don’t think it is good value even though it is cheap), not sure of the other one you mention. Cheapest 550’s on AT & PH are £90k. As many have alluded to, and I must clear this up, as I often tell customers; the price of the car may go up, but that’s still a long way away from making money on a car. We all know the costs involved at purchase and sale time, and all the rest in between.

There are no additional costs whatsoever to owning a car - SWIMBO may be reading my posts.

Joking, these kind of discussions are great because there is no wrong or right, unless you have Marty's Delorean and have been to check it out. It's like asking whether the 1992 ManU team would beat the 2019 Liverpool team etc.

I think the place to start if you truly want to know what will become more desirable is by asking people far younger than most of us. That's because it's those people that will be 40 and 50 somethings in 20 years from now and have the spare cash to buy the cars from the posters on their bedroom walls. We're all lusting after 80s hot hatches and the like for exactly this reason. I had a Countach on my wall but they have become too expensive, oh and they're rubbish when you get up close. I'd pay 15k for a mint Corrado though!

So, what do those young folks have on their walls, or as their desktop background? Probably the silly stuff that Supercar Blondie and Schmee review.

 

[bigbob]

No such thing as an investment car IMO. Even if it goes up in value, very, very few will actually yield a profit when you take into account storage, maintenance / servicing, insurance etc ..... and that is without factoring in the value of money.

And given that the market is so fickle (who would ever have thought sh!tbox Escorts and Capris would command such silly prices?) there is absolutely no predicting future prices.

My advice - Buy what you like and drive it.

+1. Buy what you want and enjoy it as much as you feel is appropriate. For most people here any genuine fully costed return they make on one or two classic cars is not material to their wealth so do what makes you happy car wise. If you need bragging rights on a forum then great, whatever floats your boat.

 

[madmanmart]

I have a feeling the 3200 may struggle for a while as the non-specialist trade are petrified of them and the warranty implications. That’s more important than you might imagine - as that’s what helps foster the market.
It’s the same for TVRs, but they stand a better chance due to the whole British thing.
The rebooting of Maserati Classiche may help, it may not...

I think as the cars move to classic status then they will be sold without warranty as a classic car.

Anything with a V8, V10, V12 and particularly manual transmission will do well.

 

[bigbob]

I think as the cars move to classic status then they will be sold without warranty as a classic car.

Anything with a V8, V10, V12 and particularly manual transmission will do well.

Agree. Most cars from this century are just too complex, modern and not pure enough to count. I’m inclined to think that anything with a turbo is out but then the F40 is turboed and is produced in quite large volumes so who knows.

 

[Dan!]

Nice unmolested S1 Elise are due to rocket in value.

Not only have they doubled in value over the last 5 years, as soon as they hit 25 years old they'll be allowed to be imported to the US for road use, rather than currently only track use.

At that point demand will increase exponentially and prices for an S1 Elise will easily hit £50k+, S1 Exige will be £100k+ easy, and 340R will be £150k+

Ultra molested and modified versions such as mine will end up being cheap in comparison.

As ever, when it comes to investing in cars, do the opposite of what I do and you'll make a fortune, guaranteed!!

 

[rivarama]

No such thing as an investment car IMO. Even if it goes up in value, very, very few will actually yield a profit when you take into account storage, maintenance / servicing, insurance etc ..... and that is without factoring in the value of money.

And given that the market is so fickle (who would ever have thought sh!tbox Escorts and Capris would command such silly prices?) there is absolutely no predicting future prices.

My advice - Buy what you like and drive it.

I don’t disagree - I was merely just trying to ID cars that are close to the bottom of their depreciation curve, so they can be enjoyed to the fullest and not cost too much in depreciation. Appreciation wouldn’t hurt, though I really dont think we’ll see another bubble anytime soon

 

[Andyk]

I have a feeling the 3200 may struggle for a while as the non-specialist trade are petrified of them and the warranty implications. That’s more important than you might imagine - as that’s what helps foster the market.
It’s the same for TVRs, but they stand a better chance due to the whole British thing.
The rebooting of Maserati Classiche may help, it may not...

I suppose if you also add parts availability the 3200 is going to struggle going forward......

 

[Doctor Houx]

More so the manual but the sport shift ok, just got to buy the right car at the right money.

IMO Dicky, of the modern AM's the Vanquish Gen 1 will outperform both V12V and DBS as last of the handbuilt cars out of NP in very limited numbers and the "Halo" car for Ian Callum, given his Callum 25 update at £500k plus donor Vanquish. Agree the other 2 you mention are up there too as per my previous post on another thread on the same topic.

This is why I have a protoype Vanquish in my stable with my DB4GT, as I think the former is the DB4/5/6 of the AM world 20 years hence and will form part of my pension/old peoples home fund when I'm too decrepit to drive it anymore!

 

[Nayf]

I think as the cars move to classic status then they will be sold without warranty as a classic car.

Anything with a V8, V10, V12 and particularly manual transmission will do well.

Apologies warranty was the wrong phrasing, I was thinking more of the return of goods act three/six months which applies to all cars, classic or not. If you’ve a choice of selling a 996 Carrera 2 or a 3200 as a non specialist trader, at least if the Porsche sh|ts its engine you can find someone (and have a reasonable choice to shop around) and the bits to fix it, and a much stronger and wider pool to sell to. So if a customer brings his back after a month saying the engine’s borked, the Porsche is at least salvageable even if the margin is diminished. The 3200 might well sit there as an ornament, decomposing and haemorrhaging margin until you break it for spares...
I’d argue you’re more likely to see 4200s increase first as the Ferrari link is a bit more of a potent selling point and prices are starting to polarise for those.
Again, this is purely objective (I actually like driving 3200s, and this is not meant to upset owners) and what I’ve heard through non-specialist Maser dealers.