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Alexpie

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This video keeps getting taken down off social media. 30 minutes long and a thought inspiring video by a virologist.




Interesting fact checking regarding this video with sources on these threads. (If you can be bothered to read through it all !) :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Moronavirus/comments/geokm9/where_can_i_find_a_good_rebuttal_to_plandemic/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CovIdiots/comments/gezery/plandemic_documentary_debunked/
 

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Who's MC'ing todays Two Minutes Hate on behalf of the Tory Party?

Boris 'Bojo' Johnson?
Matt 'Handjob' Hancock
Dominic 'Death Warmed Up' Raab?

Or that weird bloke I can never remember the name of but is well versed in patronising....
 

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This is Crazy if it's true.

Interesting, just had a look around to try and fact check this a bit.
First patent he mentions that there "is a patent for coronavirus" and shows the website showing said patent.
(https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US2006257852#section=Patent-Title)
The part of the "coronavirus patent" that video doesn't show you on that exact website is this summary:
So-called Coronavirus patent said:
An outbreak of a virulent respiratory virus, now known as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), was identified in Hong Kong, China and a growing number of countries around the world in 2003. The invention relates to nucleic acids and proteins from the SARS coronavirus. These nucleic acids and proteins can be used in the preparation and manufacture of vaccine formulations, diagnostic reagents, kits, etc. The invention also provides methods for treating SARS by administering small molecule antiviral compounds, as well as methods of identifying potent small molecules for the treatment of SARS.
So that first one is to do with SARS (SARS-CoV) rather than COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) and therefore not very relevant as far as I can see.

Second he mentions a European patent for a "coronavirus vaccine", and again shows a website:
https://data.epo.org/gpi/EP3172319A1
Again, he doesn't show the whole website or description of a patent. Here's the description on there
So-called coronavirus vaccine patent said:
The present invention provides a live, attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene encoding polyproteins comprising a mutation in one or more of non- structural protein(s) (nsp)-10, nsp-14, nsp-15 or nsp-16. The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease, such as infectious bronchitis, in a subject.
Now I'm an engineer and definitely not a doctor or a scientist, so most of that doesn't make much sense to me. The part of it that did make sense to me was
Patent said:
The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease
Which ties up with what I have read about the Oxford Jenner Institute vaccine that's currently in human trials, in that it uses a type of virus found in Chimpanzee's that has no affect on humans and is non-replicating as a sort of means of transport for their COVID vaccine, but rather than produce whatever the virus normally produces they effectively re-programmed it to produce the "spikes" found on COVID-19 to introduce it into our bodies so we can produce antibodies without actually being infected.
(https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/covid-19-vaccine-development this probably explains it a bit better)

With that said, is this second patent quoted for using such technology, as in using a coronavirus for a vaccine rather than a patent for a coronavirus vaccine? I don't know. But I'm enjoying looking all this stuff up !
 

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Who's MC'ing todays Two Minutes Hate on behalf of the Tory Party?

Boris 'Bojo' Johnson?
Matt 'Handjob' Hancock
Dominic 'Death Warmed Up' Raab?

Or that weird bloke I can never remember the name of but is well versed in patronising....

Jenrick the "I stay in three homes" person?
 

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Interesting, just had a look around to try and fact check this a bit.
First patent he mentions that there "is a patent for coronavirus" and shows the website showing said patent.
(https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US2006257852#section=Patent-Title)
The part of the "coronavirus patent" that video doesn't show you on that exact website is this summary:

So that first one is to do with SARS (SARS-CoV) rather than COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) and therefore not very relevant as far as I can see.

Second he mentions a European patent for a "coronavirus vaccine", and again shows a website:
https://data.epo.org/gpi/EP3172319A1
Again, he doesn't show the whole website or description of a patent. Here's the description on there

Now I'm an engineer and definitely not a doctor or a scientist, so most of that doesn't make much sense to me. The part of it that did make sense to me was
Which ties up with what I have read about the Oxford Jenner Institute vaccine that's currently in human trials, in that it uses a type of virus found in Chimpanzee's that has no affect on humans and is non-replicating as a sort of means of transport for their COVID vaccine, but rather than produce whatever the virus normally produces they effectively re-programmed it to produce the "spikes" found on COVID-19 to introduce it into our bodies so we can produce antibodies without actually being infected.
(https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/covid-19-vaccine-development this probably explains it a bit better)

With that said, is this second patent quoted for using such technology, as in using a coronavirus for a vaccine rather than a patent for a coronavirus vaccine? I don't know. But I'm enjoying looking all this stuff up !

You mean it's ********, again? No offence to @philw696 but you can pretty much make that assessment from the still: 'Urgent' 'This Video will be banned in 24 hours'

Just like the 'Brits are making millions and gaining financial freedom. Watch now before it's banned'

Nice research, though.

Oh and having a patent for something in no way means that you have a working device or method. Just a quick quote specific to perpetual motions machines:

The filing of a patent application is a clerical task, and the USPTO will not refuse filings for perpetual motion machines; the application will be filed and then most probably rejected by the patent examiner, after he has done a formal examination.[27] Even if a patent is granted, it does not mean that the invention actually works, it just means that the examiner believes that it works, or was unable to figure out why it would not work.[27]

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Alexpie

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You mean it's ****, again? No offence to @philw696 but you can pretty much make that assessment from the still 'Urgent' 'This Video will be banned in 24 hours'

Just like the 'Brits are making millions and gaining financial freedom. Watch now before it's banned'

Nice research, though

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Yes, unfortunately it's ********. It seems that however boring that may be, it is just a virus and not some kind of pyramid scheme developed by our reptilian overlords to steal all our money and keep us in our homes.

I know what you mean, you could make that assessment from the title, as did I.. But rather than just call ******** I thought I'd try and back it up. Same as the other "Plandemic" video that was posted, I was pretty certain it was ******** before the interviewer had started talking, when the caption popped up describing him as a "Father/Filmaker" as I'm not quite sure what a "Filmaker" is...
 

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Interesting, there's a bit more information on there to the one I found, although it may as well be in Swahili as I'm not even close to being able to understand the majority of it. There are some other statements on there which I can slightly comprehend that seem to point in the same direction as what I had previously interpreted, mentioning use in vaccines etc.

Patent said:
20. A vaccine comprising a coronavirus according to any of claims 1 to 12 and a pharmaceutically acceptable carrier.
Patent said:
[0002] FIELD OF THE INVENTION The present invention relates to an attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene, which causes the virus to have reduced pathogenicity. The present invention also relates to the use of such a coronavirus in a vaccine to prevent and/or treat a disease.

Those points in particular seem to tie in with what the Oxford guys are doing with their vaccine. But from what I can establish, there's no mention of it being a patent for a specific coronavirus, more so an application for using a coronavirus. But again I may be wrong !!
 

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Interesting, there's a bit more information on there to the one I found, although it may as well be in Swahili as I'm not even close to being able to understand the majority of it. There are some other statements on there which I can slightly comprehend that seem to point in the same direction as what I had previously interpreted, mentioning use in vaccines etc.




Those points in particular seem to tie in with what the Oxford guys are doing with their vaccine. But from what I can establish, there's no mention of it being a patent for a specific coronavirus, more so an application for using a coronavirus. But again I may be wrong !!

It's even better than that. I invite anyone taking it seriously to consider the phrase:
'Further, there is a need in the industry to develop vaccines which are suitable for use in ovo'
Particularly in light of the:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_coronavirus

And since it's not the QOTD thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_ovo

effective method for vaccination of poultry against various Avian influenza and coronaviruses.



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Oh wow... so it's for birds.

Yes. Yes it is. It's a patent for a vaccine not only against a different disease (IBV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_coronavirus), but for a different genus of animals.

https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/viruses/infectious-bronchitis-virus

Whose patent it is

List the symptoms:

  • Young chickens are depressed and huddle under the heat source
  • Gasping, coughing and nasal discharge
  • Drop in egg production
  • Poor quality eggs; misshapen or soft-shelled eggs with watery content
  • When the kidneys are affected, increased water intake, depression, scouring and wet litter are commonly observed.
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Just pulled this from the Irish government website, another benefit to living in "country" as the Dubs call it,

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Alexpie

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Yes. Yes it is. It's a patent for a vaccine not only against a different disease (IBV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_coronavirus), but for a different genus of animals.

https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/viruses/infectious-bronchitis-virus

Whose patent it is

List the symptoms:

  • Young chickens are depressed and huddle under the heat source
  • Gasping, coughing and nasal discharge
  • Drop in egg production
  • Poor quality eggs; misshapen or soft-shelled eggs with watery content
  • When the kidneys are affected, increased water intake, depression, scouring and wet litter are commonly observed.
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That’s brilliant.
Although, it’s made me feel rather stupid for reading it and not realising, even though I could see it wasn’t what he was claiming it to be !

Which kind of makes sense as to why he’d claim it to be a COVID vaccine, because the average person (i.e me:banghead1:) could look at that, put 2 and 2 together and get 9. Even whilst not believing what’s in the video. Or what’s more worrying, is the amount of people who don’t even double check the facts behind these videos and take it as gospel because they saw it on YouTube. You can see how these conspiracy types gain traction.
 
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