Anyone gone 211 E55K or similar to Cayenne Turbo or vice versa?

[rockits]

I know a random subject for a Maserati forum but I know many are into many marques so I thought I'd ask the question. Maybe not an 211 E55K specifically but something similar maybe to/from Cayenne Turbo. Or any experiences with the Cayenne Turbo in general.

Now I am and have been very happy with my E55K Estate the last 18 months. Wasn't looking to change it and more than happy to keep it for years as does all I need so well.

However, I've just been offered a 957 Cayenne Turbo at a price I'm finding it hard to ignore. Not said yes yet but it is seriously tempting for what it offers. Would mean the E55K would have to make way though and after waiting so long to find such a nice example also not in Silver I'm loathed to sell.

So my question is if anyone has gone 211 E55K to Cayenne Turbo or the other way around to compare? I had a 2005/55 Base Cayenne V6 petrol a coupe of years ago and really liked it. Just found the standard steel sprung car a little too firm. Handled really well but much too firm for me. The Cayenne Turbo has the air suspension and also has the optional PDCC so am guessing it will ride much better than the steel sprung car but not driven one to say for sure.

Has anyone had any experience of a Cayenne Turbo ideally with Air Suspension and PDCC to compare to an E55K?

Similar power but obviously much heavier and as an SUV slightly different to the 211 Estate.

 

[highlander]

I test drove a cayenne turbo before settling on the 3.2 version which i have happily used as a daily for the last 7 years or so. personally found little difference in general driving with both suspensions. the extra boost with the turbos was really nice in such a big and heavy car but eventually the fear of a big bill with engine scoring just proved too big a gamble for me. doubt it would be cheap but an endoscope check for scoring would be essential before any purchase of one of these imo.

 

[zagatoes30]

Given your love of the E55 estate why would change, you always come back to them and if you have a good one hold on to it.

Cayenne is a great car but it can come with Porsche tax should anything go wrong.

I think you have a case of the other mans grass is always greener and more often than not it isn't

 

[rockits]

I test drove a cayenne turbo before settling on the 3.2 version which i have happily used as a daily for the last 7 years or so. personally found little difference in general driving with both suspensions. the extra boost with the turbos was really nice in such a big and heavy car but eventually the fear of a big bill with engine scoring just proved too big a gamble for me. doubt it would be cheap but an endoscope check for scoring would be essential before any purchase of one of these imo.

Thanks. Interesting. Was the 3.2 V6 the steel sprung version or did it have the air suspension? I had a 3.2 V6 base model for about a year or so and it handled amazing just found it just too firm in the end.

The Turbo is a later 957 4.8 rather than the earlier 955 4.5 so hope/believe the bore scoring was/is less of an issue. Also the coolant pipes seemed to be a revised part in the later 957 so less of an issue.

Of course always a chance of a huge bill or two but I've had enough of these type of cars to be partial leaned forward to be ready for one of those. Like Russian Roulette I guess

 

[rockits]

Given your love of the E55 estate why would change, you always come back to them and if you have a good one hold on to it.

Cayenne is a great car but it can come with Porsche tax should anything go wrong.

I think you have a case of the other mans grass is always greener and more often than not it isn't

Yes, totally agree. Just getting to the point in life I think where it is almost YOLO. Always admired what Porsche did with the Cayenne and really liked the V6 I had but am intrigued by the Turbo.

Yes, also very much likely the grass isn't greener. I can just afford to buy the Cayenne and maybe have/run it for a bit in parallel to the E55K. Maybe I'll give it a try and if the grass is actually greener I'll part with the E55K. If the grasser isn't greener I don't think I'll lose money buying at the price it has been offered to me. Unless there is a shockingly huge bill of course!

I do have a longer term plan as really would like an L405 Range Rover V8 Supercharged Autobiography. I looked at them 18 months ago when I bought the E55K but they were a little out of my budget at £25k-£30k upwards. After the recent price decimation they are now getting into ideal budget territory. I was very close to doing a deal on one the last week or so but an earlier 2013 example. The plan is to wait a little bit and try to get an April 2017 onwards example. It gets the later infotainment and some other improvements. Also the car tax drops from £735 to £190 per year.

I'm hoping if prices ease a little further over the next year I might be able to find one middle to late next year.

 

[Guy]

We have done over 30k miles in the last 2 years in our Cayenne V8 turbo diesel - possibly one of the fastest a to b cars I have owned (due to instant 850nm torque through 8 speed box and raised driving position allowing visibility over most traffic and hedges). Stupidly fast yet 30-40mpg at all times. Needs its air suspension on 21" rims. I would not switch for the petrol and double fuel consumption but they are very well put together and reasonably comfortable on long runs (not in full fat RR league but decent).

 

[Ebenezer]

Are the diesels subject to Ad-blue?
Eb

 

[Guy]

Are the diesels subject to Ad-blue?
Eb

mine isn't but the last ones are -from 2015/6 I think?

 

[rockits]

We have done over 30k miles in the last 2 years in our Cayenne V8 turbo diesel - possibly one of the fastest a to b cars I have owned (due to instant 850nm torque through 8 speed box and raised driving position allowing visibility over most traffic and hedges). Stupidly fast yet 30-40mpg at all times. Needs its air suspension on 21" rims. I would not switch for the petrol and double fuel consumption but they are very well put together and reasonably comfortable on long runs (not in full fat RR league but decent).

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Interesting. Thanks. Looks good. Looked at an SQ7 a while back and did like the V8 Turbo Diesel but ultimately still more of a petrol fan. Also prefer a SC unit to Turbo's traditionally but becoming less of an option these days with so many Turbo based.

I do prefer the Mk2 Cayenne but a Mk2 Turbo gets me it into L405 money and think I'd prefer the drive of a L405 at that point. Getting too old and the more relaxed comfort bias is more welcomed these days. Not sure if a Cayenne ultimately has a more sporty bias/edge over comfort but will try it for a bit I guess to find out.

Luckily I don't do that many miles these days maybe 4k per year so the fuel cost is less of an issue. I'm in and out of the ULEZ zone a bit so a ULEZ compliant car makes sense.

Do you find the Cayenne a great handling car but much more sporty biased than comfort based? Even with the Air Suspension.

 

[Lozzingers]

Hi Rockits,
Afraid I can't add anything as I've never owned any of the cars you mention here... But I do enjoy reading this and your other posts with how your brain works and the man maths type decisions that go into these threads! E55's, Cayenne turbos both cars I've pondered in the past but never pulled the plug, hence a vested interest! This forum is great
Good luck with your decisions!

 

[rockits]

Hi Rockits,
Afraid I can't add anything as I've never owned any of the cars you mention here... But I do enjoy reading this and your other posts with how your brain works and the man maths type decisions that go into these threads! E55's, Cayenne turbos both cars I've pondered in the past but never pulled the plug, hence a vested interest! This forum is great
Good luck with your decisions!

Thanks. Only just found out more how my brain works more myself the last 4-5 years It is a complex frustrating contorted storm often! I have a theory as to why but not sure it could ever be proven or understood.

Glad to hear you like it and are enjoying the forum. Indeed a great mix of people, minds and cars. Long may it continue.