Am I just a bit of a wet ?

[steamer]

Another one Gents.

Been driving the car a little while now and read some references to the MSP.

Well exactly how brutal do you have to be ? How lenient is it ? Does anything show up to say its intervening ?

Last night. Pull away let clutch engage fully then floor it. Bit of a fish tail, change into 2nd, same again.

I've had a little play a few times now but never felt or seen any kind of intervention.

Maybe I need to try harder !

Comments please.

 

[conaero]

I would not turn the MSP off on the road, on a track it would be the first thing I would do.

Putting the car in SPORT will back off the MSP enough to let you fishtail if you give it the beans.

My advice though, is not to wheelspin the car, get it moving then floor it otherwise you could blow your clutch cover tangs, and thats expensive!

 

[dem maser]

great advice from Matt there

 

[StuartW]

Yes, I third that advice

 

[steamer]

Thats pretty much what I did but was just surprised that it didn't cut in in anyway.

But it was in the obligatory sports mode.

 

[Gp79]

I thought the msp cut in too early, however I turned it off in the wet and managed to do a 180 spin in second gear, not long after.

So I leave it on now!

Best advice unless you really know how to drive, it is best not to try and learn with on of these!

 

[D Walker]

Ha - That's what Dicky briefed me - don't touch unless suicidal!!

 

[jayblue]

I have driven mine with the MSP off in the dry quite a bit this summer, even in sport mode it occasionally cuts in too aggressively for my liking. Most of the time it is when i want to get out of a tight junction quickly and it just won't allow the rear tyres to break traction at all and totally cuts the power. Other than that in sport it is pretty well set up to allow you to safely exploit the handling without putting it all on the line.

I agree with the advice Dicky gave to you though Dave, in anything other than perfect conditions the MSP button may as well be skull and crossbones insteads. On numerous occasions in the colder weather or on damp roads the car did some rather unexpected behaviour in situations when i wasn't pushing on or doing anything to provoke it. Luckily at those times i had the MSP on and it cut in to help me out.

 

[VMSRTI]

Agree with all of the above and add If the road is even slightly damp dont give it any beans or herbs when in sport.

 

[nfm]

Agree with all said. Have experienced wheel spin at 80 in the rain when in sport so don't assume the nanny will always protect you.

 

[Contigo]

Wet for sure!

I drove my twin turbo nutter machine for 6 months through winter with no ABS/ASR and it was the best fun ever. Think the Donuts in France video from Le Mans everywhere I went! Roundabout, sideways, to the shops, sideways. Was brilliant.

Now I tend to leave it in Sports mode even on the track as that lets you have as much fun as you really want unless you want to drift around and as we know that is not the quickest way around a track but it looks good

 

[Contigo]

Who needs an ECU telling you what to do. Think back to basics. If this gent can drive a 1960's GT40 around a very wet Goodwood at this speed then I'm sure you will all be fine in SPORT mode

[video=youtube;1jF__B1xpJY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jF__B1xpJY[/video]

 

[nfm]

Sport yes, MSP off depends on skills. You might be fine Phil but I recall a fellow member who bought a 3200 with a busted MSP and unfortunately he hit a tree sideways not long after.

 

[steamer]

Unfortunately I'm more likely to be in the tree than showing off my drifting skills hence the question - I have a close friend that would love to tell you all my little skyline story.

 

[spkennyuk]

MSP off on the track is one thing but switch it off on the road at your peril. Too many dodgy patches in the roads and oil on roundabouts. I don't find the MSP too aggressive. You can feel it cut in from time to time when in sport mode its only a very brief dip in power to put the back end straight again. I've had the MSP off in the dry but never pushed it too hard the difference is very noticeable.

 

[outrun]

I used to turn mine off on the GS when it was dry and sunny (2 days a year in Scotland....). It made the experience more raw and engaging but I'd 2nd the advice that it's only for the right circumstances and never when there is any damp around. Other than that, it was always in Sport, no matter what the weather.

I had a monster scare in the Ghibli the other day in Sport at 70mph in the rain on the notorious M8 in Glasgow. I was waiting for two lorries to finish an overtake and then touched the accelerator to jet buy and the gear dropping down, combined with heavy worn camber and damp made the car fishtail horribly. Nearly Sh$T myself and took a good five minutes for my resting heart rate to return to normal.

Made me like the car more, is that weird?

 

[Contigo]

Lol I did the same in the Mrs Auto a month or two back and had the same interesting outcome, fishtailing and managed to correct it after a bit of a fight, heart racing and then sudden calm!

 

[jluis]

The 3200 in the wet makes the msp work overtime!
I drove mine a few days when raining and just giving a little bit more of gas would cause the asr light to flash and the engine to cut power.

Feels quite dangerous as it is.
With msp off in the wet you are asking for trouble. At least in the 3200 when the turbos kick in.