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Agree with most of this. I purchased my wife’s last car online with a 7day no quibble return policy. That meant it was stress free as I had time to inspect it at my leisure, wash it, take extended test drives (or book it into a specialist or main dealer for an inspection) and send it back if I wasn’t happy (which I was in the end and it’s proved a good car). Only thing I disagree with is it feels like there’s a broad assumption on how specialists go about making money. I’m a serial performance car owner and think myself relatively savvy. I’ve dealt with a few specialists over the years and built good relationships with them where most of them absolutely do not recommend unnecessary work (unlike main dealers). They make money out of me because if I feel like I’m treated fairly I keep coming back (as opposed being stung with a big bill that I don’t believe in). Not all specialists can be trusted (of course) but I’ve been lucky enough to use some good ones that have saved me money over the years.
 
It all really depends on who is doing the inspection whether pre or post inspection. If it is someone who is not very thorough or has other commercial motivations then you are better off spending that money on a good night out.

When I bought my 4200GT I had my leg lifted by the dealer and then I took it to a specialist that I was not familiar with for a PPI who missed amongst other things a long term leaking heater matrix and insisted that I needed a paint job...

In contrast 6 years later I have a great relationship with a renowned performance car specialist. In January I bought an BMW Alpina used approved from the main dealer up in Nottingham. Within a couple of days I asked my specialist to do a full inspection on it and I threw it back at the dealership with a long list of things that needed sorted immediately or they can take their car back.
 
Mr Spoon said:
Following the hi-jacking of another thread, and clearly how strongly so many feel about the aforementioned PPI's, I think it would be beneficial for my opinion on the benefits and pitfalls to be listed as well as any reasoning why......
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Fixed it for you :thumb3:
 
You are suggesting getting a PPI removes your protection under DSR.

It doesn't and if you take delivery of a vehicle you can still reject it.

I just don't see why you wouldn't negotiate it upfront - less time wasting for everyone.
 
Dealing with issues after a purchase means that your time is used up getting recourse etc after the purchase. Getting a PPI before purchase means you are using someone else's time. Yes you have to pay them, but everything costs.

If I were to spend a day trying to get recourse for something, that would certainly cost me more than the £250-500 that it would cost getting an expert to inspect a vehicle through loss of earnings.

I imagine several on here are in the same boat.
 
Mr Spoon said:
The same as everyone's opinion. .. oh sorry mine is less valuable as it differs from the majority.

If so many people didn't jump on this band wagon, it wouldn't be an issue.
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That’s how it works with opinions, if you are the only person saying something, and the majority say something else, there is a message in there. As I said on your newbie thread, if you give advice expecting it to be taken, you will be disappointed more than half the time. I am disappointed all of the time because I have to read this guff.

What you seem to be saying, when you say “If so many people didn't jump on this band wagon, it wouldn't be an issue.” is “if more people agreed with me, I wouldn’t go on about it”. Given the collective experience, this seems unlikely.

So now you have to choose whether to keep pressing this button, expecting a different result, or accept what you are being told, that those that have had inspections have generally faired better and had a less stressful experience and move on, safe in the knowledge that you don’t have to do what the majority (who have bought more Maserati than you collectively and in a lot of cases individually) advise.

Anyway, congrats on your 1 month anniversary of joining the forum and of owning a Maserati.
 
Mr Spoon said:
The masses can be wrong. Ever watched who wants to be a millionaire?

The good news is, this is the beauty of a forum and or the internet.
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The question is not whether they can be wrong, but whether there is any benefit to constantly trying to correct them.

Anyway, as I am sure you will agree, opinions can’t be wrong, as they are just opinions based on personal experience.
 
Mr Spoon said:
The same as everyone's opinion. .. oh sorry mine is less valuable as it differs from the majority.

If so many people didn't jump on this band wagon, it wouldn't be an issue.
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Hyper-defensive cuntleroid to the fore once again!

I merely clarified that your post was your opinion. You didn't bother to state that (for once), so it could be misconstrued. Your opinion may be in the minority sometimes, nobody really cares; we enjoy lively discussion and debate without anyone getting butthurt - feel free to do the same. The way you conduct yourself here (in my opinion, of course) is that your minority opinion must be shouted as loud and as often as possible. Remember, you've had this situation before on loads of other forums.

Cue your incoming defensive, possibly slightly pompous know-it-all response.....
 
Mr Spoon said:
Yes indeed.

I did find that my actual opinion isn't being looked at, more what people think I'm saying.

Again, written word, still it's made for an intense 24 hours.

I still think this thread has merit.
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I can assure you, based on my WhatsApp inbox, your opinion is being looked at. I mean, it’s hard not to.

You’ve said it, they’ve read it and are unswayed. It is what it is.
 
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You can comfortably dispense with a ppi if you are confident of the source material, and that's exactly what I did today; just threw the bacon into a couple of rolls and wolfed them down. Sell by date', wassat then?
 
Phil H said:
You can comfortably dispense with a ppi if you are confident of the source material, and that's exactly what I did today; just threw the bacon into a couple of rolls and wolfed them down. Sell by date', wassat then?
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I hope you cooked the bacon first!
 
Mr Spoon said:
Yes indeed.

I did find that my actual opinion isn't being looked at, more what people think I'm saying.

Again, written word, still it's made for an intense 24 hours.

I still think this thread has merit.
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This reminds me of a certain Monty Python skit with a (dead, deceased, passed on, expired, defunct, former, late, cold, gone, kicked the bucket, departed, pushing up the daisies) parrot
 
Mr Spoon said:
You do realise that when you resort to name calling its a good indication that you have exhausted your intellectual capability and resorted to neanderthal behaviour?

To quote from google,


"The study of psychology teaches us that when someone resorts to name calling, it usually speaks to feelings of inferiority and a feeling of inadequacy of the person doing the name calling. People stoop to the process of name calling when they feel lesser and need to make themselves feel more powerful"

Don't hate me, hate google.
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MAF260 said:
Cue your incoming defensive, possibly slightly pompous know-it-all response.....
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;)
 
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